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out yonder
 out yonder      05.02.2010 - 14:30:22 (modif: 05.02.2010 - 14:30:42), level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
inac ale suhlasim...to je len taka moja pripovidka k tomu sklu. ostrenie ma nenadchlo, polkilometrova vysuvacia trubicka, slnecna clona nepotesila, chromaticka aberacia dost dost onicom...ale tokina je na tom este horsie.

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spectre
 spectre      05.02.2010 - 14:22:37 , level: 1, UP   NEW
poznas za tie peniaze nieco lepsie?

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out yonder
 out yonder      05.02.2010 - 14:24:41 , level: 2, UP   NEW
mozno sa nehnat zakazdym po 2.8 svetelnosti...

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spectre
 spectre      05.02.2010 - 14:46:50 (modif: 05.02.2010 - 14:47:47), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ved netvrdim, ze musi byt s F2,8. pre lowcost canon je to ale imho dobra alternativa.

ako dostupne alternativy ma napadaju
setaky 18-55/3,5-5,6 (IS/VR)
(spolu s canon 500D/nikon D5000)
sigma 17-70/2,8-4,5
mozno seconhand tokina 16-50/2,8

s nikonom (D3000 alebo secondhand D80/D200)
nikkor 18-70/3,5-4,5
nikkor 18-105/3,5-5,6 VR

vsetko ostatne je mimo budgetu 700 eur afaik, vratane nizsie odporucaneho 5D kde by dal tolko len za samotne secondhand telo a na objektiv by mu uz nezostalo.

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out yonder
 out yonder      05.02.2010 - 15:02:08 , level: 4, UP   NEW
inac sigmu 17-70 vylepsili na 2.8-4 s HSM a stabilizatorom...som zvedavy na cenu.

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pxls.jpg
 pxls.jpg      05.02.2010 - 15:46:10 , level: 5, UP   NEW
aj ten tamron je uz vylepseny, tiez so stabilizatorom, ale stale s pomalym ostrenim, stoji nieco cez 400€

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spectre
 spectre      05.02.2010 - 17:21:25 , level: 6, UP   NEW
skor "vylepseny"
The Tamron AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR Di II LD Aspherical [IF] VC is a very promising lens based on its sheer specifications. However, it falls somewhat short of the high expectations especially when considering the excellent performance of its non-VC variant.
http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/482-tamron_1750_28vc_canon?start=2

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 pxls.jpg      05.02.2010 - 18:08:26 , level: 7, UP   NEW
neviem posudit, so starym som nikdy nefotil, novy mam a paci sa mi
podla recenzii sa tento novy sprava lepsie v protisvetle