thus spoke filip in 'kyberia freeGuilds' :: Remember, remember, the velvet November


node:	thus spoke filip in 'kyberia freeGuilds'
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created:	29.08.2005 - 11:17:19

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ABSOLUT
KYBERIA

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why clustering by k?
more interesting would be using friends
so that u see what social groups are and also visualize them......for me k is a lost issue...it will never reflect any quality or spirit on kyberia,,,i think that it can be used maximally parodically........viac when i have more time

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takze zhrntie... [zatial]
podla coho sietovat:

- synapsie [ehm neurony etc.]
- friends
- k [ale len ciastocne v zaklade]
- bookmarks
..

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i dont believe in neurons
still dont understand exactly how they are realised
everytime i check my neurons im amazed what is there
guess it happens also to other people
and thats why in gnd's first clustering i dont believe
i know also that there is a big difference beetween the interface [the kyberia that we see] and how the system is build
but for a social clustering i think it is better to use friends

as for k
sometimes i give k just to piss off somebody, soemetimes to make fun, soemtimes to draw attention on a topic
k is a to subjective system....

blabla
its just that im more interested in the community and social issues and also hwo to visualise this and show the transformations
than just to obtain any result and nice images

but first gotta learn more on neural networks:]
another issue which many people cant get it completely coz its based on very complicated calculations
and u can use soem externals in pure data adn gives u soemthing and u have to take it coz anyhow u dont know more
i think best is if more people try and compare results
or if various methods are used

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no to je problem ako vela o usroch sa vies dozvediet z "interfejsu: akym je kyberia.. a este raz - friends je neuprimne a nepravdive este viac ako neurons,.. aj ked sa priznam ze neurons funguju naozaj zvlastne.. mozno by pomohlo keby hromi uverejnil kod tykajuci sa neurons a mozno aj checkol ci to bezi spravne lebo mam pocit ze daco bezi ale nie celkom..

++ implementovat zanikanie synapsie ked sa dlho nepouziva (ako zivy system - synapsia ktora je nevyuzivana sa zacne zmensovat)

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yeah, coz u believe too much in mathematics...but friends u choose most of the time on a true basis, while k uthrow around
as for neruons, lets see what the Master hromi sais

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podla [K] by sa dala v pohode urcovat kvalita a pribuznost, ale potrebujes na to zopar ludi ktori by mali byt urcovany nahodne. system na slashdote bud prikladom. ku kazdemu clanku sa vyberie nahodne zopar regnutych userov ktory prejdu celu diskusiu a vyberaju tie najlepsie kusky (akesi polomoderovanie). ostatny uz len zberaju plody takejto prace. kvalita tych ktori "polomoderuju" sa urcuje karmou (positive alebo negative) cize ak vyzdvihujes nespravne prispevky nedostanes druhy krat sancu udelovat hodnoty.

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Akurát že v tomto prípade porovnanie so slashdotom dos? kríva, lebo má mnohonásobne viac aktívnych užívateľov. Čiže výber "moderátorov" by som nechal na prirodzený výber - komu sa chce, ten nech označuje príspevky. Tak ako k.

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ale potom je potrebne pre [K] udelit kategorie. pretoze mnoho uzivatelov mnoho chuti. [K] malo pravdepodobne reprezentovat to naj z kyberie za nejaky cas. pri tomto pocte prispevkov to ale nieje 100% spolahlivy mechanizmus. cize [K] dostanu aj hodnotne prispevky ale nemusia ma zaujat. moderator moze byt kludne urceny nahodnym sposobom. kto nechce moderovat zaskrtne policko "not interested" a system vyberie dalsieho. ale na pociatku by samozrejme mali byt moderatori urceny. vsetko samozrejme, ako si povedal, zalezi na pocte uzivatelov. ich system mozno nieje najlepsi ale funguje spolahlivo.

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by K [+ /id/1839628]
-it is just one idea

and that gnds clustering looks more efective hm
but i thing if there are more 'kays' it would be more ehm efective? [more shure]

ehm but i do not know exactly how to do it all and how to make it real here [i mean clustering]

hm inac K parodically, i know that it is not so good to divide it by this [/id/1590937] but if it is one the atributes it could help... and if its not so strict [for example just dividing giveing K to some 'temporary balast' [uf im starting to speak bullshits ehm sory, but hope that u understand what i wanted to say]

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hehe thats what i do :)

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i saw your clustering but it looked chaotic to me[=
[also i wasnt able to find me there, just mi sub id]

update ::
im there 'Holden Caulfield' [in same cluster as you hehe]

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yeah, i just wanted to give u the chance to be modest and share things:]