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vid dennik: /id/1836423|ehm nechcem aby steho citali cely je to ajtak xty klon ale su tam mozne perspektivy| 'moja' odpoved: /id/1836565 dalsia alternativa
vieme zriesit? priblizit?

pre-source::

  • /id/516715!! - ehm manifesto

  • "..Potom ako sa zaregistruje uzivatel do systemu (pri registracii sa okrem mena hesla a emailu budu zadavat aj tzv. klucove slova) sa zadane klucove slova (keywords-kazdy uzivatel sa pokusi charakterizovat okruhy zaujimov tymito slovami) vyhladaju v celej databaze. Vyhoda systemu spociva v tom, ze kazda vec, ci uz uzivatel, subor, alebo povedzme registracny skript ma v systeme jasne urcenu 'POLOHU'. Na zaklade zadanych keywords a vysledkov vyhladavania sa registrovany uzivatel umiestni na bod geometricky najblizsie k vsetkym vyhladanym keywords.." [zdroj: ergond /id/97624]

  • ..


ideaz::


##[clustering by K, synapsie vztahou]
##strict K filter
------kombinacja tychto dvoch je uz powerfull
##konkretne 'grupy'
##blizkost nod
##tiez dake napady
##friends[ nieco ako last, ale bude tam poslend eod friendoch {popripade setky posledne ale len nazov v zozname} a aj dennikyt od friends, a kcka od friends]

.. more ideas welcomed, ale realizacie este viac

help nodes::



+ userlist [w8]

+ ..

tmp notices::


- OT/flejm mazem
- ak najdete dake nody podobe ako v topicu na danu temu bud ich linkite[put] albo hodte link v prispevku [alebo do topicu rovno]
- plz veci o ignore liste neriesit v tejto node [iba ak by sa to preplietalo, inac mazem]
- tak toto je len tak narychlo noda ma za ucel zoskupit ludi a idey [ktory/ktore to su] a realizovat




  • 01549689018352100189013502540452
    mx 27.07.2006 - 20:39:07 level: 1 UP New
    ok, je pekne, ze pisete traktaty o vsetkom moznom, ale dostane sa nieco aj ku mne na stol? davam dokopy totiz strom required features na v3 a fakt by som to tam velmi rad zapracoval, aby sa mohlo premyslat nad logickym a datovym modelom :)
    dakujeeem :)
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  • 01549689018352100189013502514104
    Jay 09.07.2006 - 10:26:10 level: 1 UP New
    tu mate vase Free Guilds :)
    http://kyberia.sk/id/2514017
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  • 01549689018352100189013502105207
    vlku 19.01.2006 - 17:10:00 (modif: 19.01.2006 - 17:12:17) level: 1 UP New Content changed
    pomaly ale isto dochadzam ku nazoru ze taketo nieco treba. som s vami.
    technicky povedane vedel by som si to velmi dobre predstavit z hladiska kodu kedze 2.3 je na to pripravena z hladiska programovatelnosti [ mozno umysel, mozno nie ].

    [dodatok]
    ale viac ku tomu ked si precitam cele forum a navrhy co tu padli
  • 01549689018352100189013501912173
    hm
    tak skúsim niečo napísa?
    1. K-moderovanie - o tom som už písal, príspevok je nalinkovaný v topicu, slashdotovský model spomenutý nižšie sa mi páči. + rozšírenie možností K-listov, tam je veľa otvorených možností.
    2. groups, ignorelist, homogenity and consistency - pre mňa asi najdôležitejšia otázka, určujúca čo a ako. Predstavenie feature ako ignorelist, grouping (guild), zvyšovanie miery autonómie, teda zvyšovanie vzdialenosti medzi ľudmi/skupinami (ktoré "chcú" by? od seba ďalej) nesie so sebou riziko vytvorenia úplného múru. To nie je problém, ak chce by? kyberia diskusný server, osobne si ale myslím že by sa mala skôr podporova? určitá otvorenos?
    voči iným. To znamená balansovanie na hrane medzi prílišnou blízkos?ou (súčasný stav - veľa flejmov a osobných treníc) a prílišnou vzdialenos?ou (keď sa každý môže utiahnu? "do seba"). Z toho výchádzjúc: ignorelist - nie. Ale potešila by možnos? vytvára? explicitné skupiny užívateľov (nie implicitné, tvorené "nejakým" clusteringom, to je síce zaujímavý experiment ale zatiaľ nič praktické) a tieto používa? pri definovaní práv rovnako ako bežných užívateľov.
    3. gov...
    --to be continued--
  • 01549689018352100189013501900643
    || 01.09.2005 - 12:28:59 level: 1 UP New
    rieky guildy
    nie s hranicami alebo aj hej ale skor
    ne
    fragmenty
    -vrchna vrstva [x]html/css {praktikovanien hajlajtu dehajlajtu v node}

    -lajer2 sablony.. tematycke nody samotnych 'guild' mozno ani nie kokretne
    ale personalne [sak sablona]

    -lajer3 output/input z/do DataBazy .. hehe toto ideme ako prioritu riesit ze? osobne nechcem riesit nove veci do db ale aplikovat to co tu je ale mozno aj nie.... najvhodnejsia cesta teda ako tu uz bolo parkrat spomenute[a zevraj urza stym kedisi prisiel] riesit to opodla bookmarkov] ale rad by som to rozsiril

    chjaj zly prispevok
    pradon zhrnam nic nic nove
    nic konkretne =/

    ale este sa treba prisposobit/vyuzit novu apkrejdaciju kyberia [ak sa zriesi tak bude radykal zasah do systemu]

    a to vyuzit tiez
    lebo to uz bude riadna strategia ze nacom vam zalezi nacom nie [nnie z hladiska read/write] ale ostatne eventy.. sak hromi napise.. uvidime[



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  • 01549689018352100189013501893249
    mno, maly napad, ktory nesuvisi s clusteringom, ale je to mozno sposob ako lahko a jednoducho ziskat o ludoch zaujimave kyber-informacie.
    predstavme si templatu s formularom::
    zakladom bude polozka "id" kde si vyberieme dotycne idcko. povodne som sa chcel zamerat na friends, ale preco sa obmedzovat. moze ist napr o idcko z urcitej "zaujmovej skupiny", ktore su sucastou MARINovej idei, aby sme nemuseli vyberat z 5000 entit.
    mohlo by existovat na vyber niekolko druhov filtrov, podla toho na aky typ informacie sa zameriavame. napr. pokial by sme sa chceli dozvediet nieco o bookmarkoch dotycneho/dotycnej, mozeme vliezt do usernody a pozerat sa tam, ale nie je to prilis prakticke a pri pocte bookmarkov okolo 100 ani zabavne.. takze, co sa tyka bookmarkov filtre typu "spolocne bookmarky" a "tie ostatne/tie co su naviac".
    potom by sme sa chceli zamerat na prispevky.. tak by existoval filer, ktory by prehladne zobrazil, do akeho fora/for najviac prispeva (percentualne), alebo nejaku kvazi tabulku poslednych prispevkov prerozdelenu medzi fora. som si isty, ze nejakym sposobom by sa dal filtrovat aj obsah prispevkov (klucove slova, hladanie tagu <img src> a pod. )

    a este by mohlo byt zaujimave vymysliet nejaky sposob vyuzitia neuronov, len nejako nerozumiem , ako to vlastne funguje.
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  • 01549689018352100189013501892925
    It seems like the quality of comment posts is declining. Are you doing anything about it?
    We have a moderation system.
    One of the unfortunate side-effects of the increasing popularity of _insert_name_of_any_disucussion_server_ is that the number of trolls, flame-warriors and all-around lamers increases as well, and it only takes a relatively small number of them to make a lot of noise. Keeping this noise to a minimum is one of the primary goals of the moderation system.
    Since this system is essentially an experiment in trying to solve the problems inherent in mass communication, one would expect its success to be variable, and indeed, this is the case. Some days it works great, and some days it doesn't.

    How did the moderation system develop?
    In order to understand the system, it might help to understand how we got there. It wasn't random, it was trial and error and progression. I'm constantly tweaking and changing, trying to squeeze more out. Trying to make a more efficient, more fair system.

    Before Moderation

    In the beginning, Slashdot was small. We got dozens of posts each day, and it was good. The signal was high, the noise was low. Moderation was unnecessary because we were nobody. It was a different world then. Each day we grew, adding more and more users, and increasing the number of comments submitted. As this happened, many users discovered new and annoying ways to abuse the system. The authors had but one option: Delete annoying comments. But as the system grew, we knew that we would never be able to keep up. We were outnumbered.

    Hand Picked Few

    So, I picked people to help. Just a few. 25 or so at the end. They were given the simple ability to add or subtract points to comments. The primary function of these brave souls was to weed out spam and First Post and flame bait. Plus, when they found smart stuff, to bring it out.

    The system worked pretty well, but as Slashdot continued to grow, it was obvious that these 25 people wouldn't be enough to keep up with the thousands of posts we were getting each day. It was obvious that we needed more.

    400 Lucky Winners

    So we picked more the only way we could. Using the actions of the original 25 moderators, we picked 400 more. We picked the 400 people who had posted good comments: comments that had been flagged as the cream of Slashdot. Immediately several dozen of these new moderators had their access revoked for being abusive, but they settled down.

    At this time I began to experiment with ways of restricting the power of moderators to prevent abuses. 25 people are easy to keep an eye on, but 400 is another matter. I knew that someday I would have even less control since I intended to eventually give access to even more people. While moderators still added and subtracted points, the number of points they were given dropped from hundreds to dozens.

    As time went on, I began working on the next phase: mass moderation. I learned a lot from having so many moderators. I learned that I needed to limit the power of each person to prevent a single rogue from spoiling it for everyone. And then we took the next step.

    Today: Most Anyone

    Today any regular Slashdot reader is probably eligible to become a moderator. A variety of factors weigh into it, but if you are logged in when you browse Slashdot comments, you might occasionally be granted moderator access. Don't worry about it. Just keep reading this document and learn what to do about it!

    How does moderation work?
    When moderators are given access, they are given a number of points of influence to play with. Each comment they moderate deducts a point. When they run out of points, they are done serving until next time it is their turn.

    Moderation takes place by selecting an adjective from a drop down list that appears next to comments containing descriptive words like "Flamebait" or "Informative." Bad words will reduce the comment's score by a single point, and good words increase a comment's score by a single point. All comments are scored on an absolute scale from -1 to 5. Logged-in users start at 1 (although this can vary from 0 to 2 based on their karma) and anonymous users start at 0.

    Moderators can not participate in the same discussion as both a moderator and a poster. This is to prevent abuses, and while it is one of the more controversial aspects of the system, I'm sticking to it. There are enough lurkers that moderate that, if you want to post, feel free.

    Moderation points expire after 3 days if they are left unused. You then go back into the pool and might someday be given access again.

    Concentrate more on promoting than on demoting. The real goal here is to find the juicy good stuff and let others read it. Do not promote personal agendas. Do not let your opinions factor in. Try to be impartial about this. Simply disagreeing with a comment is not a valid reason to mark it down. Likewise, agreeing with a comment is not a valid reason to mark it up. The goal here is to share ideas. To sift through the haystack and find needles. And to keep the children who like to spam Slashdot in check.

    What are thresholds?
    Your "threshold" is the minimum score that a comment needs to have if it is to be displayed to you. Comments are scored from -1 to 5, and you can set your threshold at any score within that range. So, for example, if you set your threshold at 2, only comments with scores of 2 or above would be displayed. Setting your threshold at -1 will display all comments. 0 is almost all comments. 1 filters out most Anonymous Cowards, and so on. Higher threshold settings reduce the number of comments you see, but (in theory, anyway) the quality of the posts you do see increases.

    Is this censorship?
    I don't think so. Nothing is deleted: if you want to read the raw, uncut Slashdot, simply set your threshold to -1 and go crazy! This system is simply a method for us to try to work together to categorize the thousands of comments that are posted each day in such a way that we can benefit from the wisdom contained in the discussions. It's in there! It just takes some work to find it.

    What is a good comment? A bad comment?
    A good comment says something interesting or insightful. It has a link to a relevant piece of information that will add something to the discussion. It might not be Shakespeare, but it's not Beavis and Butthead. It's not off topic or flamey. It doesn't call someone names. It doesn't personally attack someone because of a disagreement of opinion.

    What about comments copy-and-pasted from other sources?
    If someone copies text from elsewhere and doesn't mention that it's copied or name the source, it's plagiarism. Moderate it Redundant, or feel free to alert moderators by posting a link (perhaps anonymously).

    What do the choices in the moderation drop-down boxes mean?
    * Normal -- This is the default setting attached to every comment when you have moderation privileges. Normally, you should not need to actually select this option, but if your mouse slips and you accidentally moderate up or down a comment you didn't mean to, you can undo that mistake by choosing Normal before you hit the "Moderate" button.
    * Offtopic -- A comment which has nothing to do with the story it's linked to (song lyrics, obscene ascii art, comments about another topic entirely) is Offtopic.
    * Flamebait -- Flamebait refers to comments whose sole purpose is to insult and enrage. If someone is not-so-subtly picking a fight (racial insults are a dead giveaway), it's Flamebait.
    * Troll -- A Troll is similar to Flamebait, but slightly more refined. This is a prank comment intended to provoke indignant (or just confused) responses. A Troll might mix up vital facts or otherwise distort reality, to make other readers react with helpful "corrections." Trolling is the online equivalent of intentionally dialing wrong numbers just to waste other people's time.
    * Redundant -- Redundant posts are ones which add no new information, but instead take up space with repeating information either in the Slashdot post, the attached links, or lots of previous comments. For instance, some posters cut and paste otherwise legitimate comments in multiple places in the same discussion; the pasted versions are Redundant.
    * Insightful -- An Insightful statement makes you think, puts a new spin on a given story (or aspect of a story). An analogy you hadn't thought of, or a telling counterexample, are examples of Insightful comments.
    * Interesting -- If you believe a comment to be Interesting (and it's not mostly Redundant, Offtopic, or otherwise lame), it is.
    * Informative -- Often comments add new information to explain the circumstances hinted at by a particular story, fill in "The Other Side" of an argument, provide specifications to a product described too vaguely elsewhere, etc. Such comments are Informative.
    * Funny -- Think of Funny as being a good moderation choice if you actually think the comment is funny, not just because it seems intended to be. Not every knock-knock joke is Funny.
    * Overrated -- Sometimes you'll run into a comment which for whatever reason has been moderated out of proportion -- this probably means several moderators saw it at nearly the same time, thought it was Funny, Insightful etc, and their scores added together exaggerate its relative merit. (A knock-knock joke at +5, Funny) Such a comment is Overrated. It's not knocking the original poster to say so, but it's probably better to spend your mod points on comments which are deserving of being moderated up.
    * Underrated -- Likewise, some comments get smashed lower than they perhaps deserve by overzealous moderators. If you moderate a comment as Underrated, you're saying that it deserves to be read by more people than will see it at its current score. As with Overrated, if you can think of a more specific moderation reason, do so -- if a comment has already been moderated with an appropriate label though, and you just want to indicate that it deserves greater visibility, that's what Underrated is for. However, if a comment is labeled with a fitting (negative) label, choosing Underrated isn't such a great idea, because you could end up with contradictions like "+5, Flamebait."

    Moderation seems restrictive. Is it really necessary?
    In short, yes.
    As you might have noticed, Slashdot gets a lot of comments. Thousands a day. Tens of thousands a month. At any given time, the database holds 50,000+ comments. A single story might have a thousand replies- and let's be realistic: Not all of the comments are that great. In fact, some are down right terrible, but others are truly gems.

    The moderation system is designed to sort the gems and the crap from the steady stream of information that flows through the pipe. And wherever possible, it tries to make the readers of the site take on the responsibility.

    The goal is that each reader will be able to read Slashdot at a level that they find appropriate. The impatient can read nothing at all but the original stories. Some will only want to read the highest rated of comments, some will want to eliminate anonymous posts, and others will want to read every last drip of data, from the First Posts! to the spam. The system we've created here will make that happen. Or at least, it sure will try...

    Goals

    * Promote quality, discourage crap.
    * Make Slashdot as readable as possible for as many people as possible.
    * Do not require a huge amount of time from any single moderator.
    * Do not allow a single moderator a "reign of terror."

    On the whole, we think the moderation system works really well, but often people disagree. Their disagreement usually stems from different expectations. They see a bunch of moderations countering each other. They see a comment moderated blatantly wrong. A 'Troll' flagged 'Off topic' (or vice versa) and feel that the system is flawed.
    Of course it is flawed! It's built upon the efforts of diverse human beings volunteering their time to help! Some humans are selfish and destructive. Others work hard and fair. It's my opinion that the sum of all their efforts is pretty damn good.
    Read Slashdot at a threshold of 3 and behold the quality of the comments you read. Certainly you aren't reading a wild and freewheeling discussion anymore, but you are reading many valid points from many intelligent people. I am actually pretty amazed.

    http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml
  • 01549689018352100189013501891704
    why clustering by k?
    more interesting would be using friends
    so that u see what social groups are and also visualize them......for me k is a lost issue...it will never reflect any quality or spirit on kyberia,,,i think that it can be used maximally parodically........viac when i have more time
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  • 01549689018352100189013501891698
    ja neviem ci ti clustering v niecom pomoze - najma ak ho chces robit podla k!

    tento napriklad je robeny podla sily synapsii medzi idckami a nech kazdy posudi sam ci sa nachadza v skupine spriaznenych idciek.

    ad userlist: potrebujes idcka ktore su aktivne - zo vsetkych zaregistrovanych userov to je cca 2000 (aktivita = pristup na kyberiu za posledny mesiac)
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  • 01549689018352100189013501890726
    pyxel 28.08.2005 - 21:15:44 level: 1 UP New
    k /id/97624 len tolko ze to asi nebude moc mozne z praktickeho vladiska, teda pretazenia systemu.
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