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BlackDeath0
That is NOT true. It is ilusion. Love creates dependence.
Once you ve lost your love there IS a great chance you WILL break DOWN!
The less things/people you depende on, the stronger you are.
So please STOP putting here topics like this one. Stop this brainwash!
That love is salvation, who do you want to fool?
Do you want to became rulers of the world or what?

There is no God, no law. Every religion's origin begins with pure human
effort to describe/unify (at that time) ununderstadable things.




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techko
 techko      22.08.2004 - 16:09:10 , level: 1, UP   NEW
The less things/people you depende on, the stronger you are.
-stronger, but emptier inside and of course alone...
there's got to be a balance to feel good

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:25:01 , level: 2, UP   NEW
clever, hehe,, but i have some "buts" :)))
from the beginning it might seem like that,
but later, i dont see it this way,

i dont see myself empty,,
alone, yes, i am,, because, people dont have reasons
to call me out,, they just dont have any reasons to be with me,,

nemam problem byt sam,, nemam problem byt prazdny,,
ked si prazdny mas uzasny klud, pokoj,, mozog soul relaxuje,
ziadne myslienky, emocie ho nezatazuju,, v klude spinka,,

stavanim sa nezavislym, z mojho pohladu neznamena stavat sa prazdnym,,,

co to pre teba znamena, byt empty?

ano, existuje stav (poznam ho), kedy clovek "v sebe" nema absolutne nic,
ziadne dovody na konanie hocicoho,,, pohoda, switch the state without reason,,
i can be done,, i have such experience with myself,,

somebody chooses balance, and somebody unbalances :)

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techko
 techko      22.08.2004 - 17:17:36 , level: 3, UP   NEW
s tym balancovanim to mas zase clever ty:)

i don't feel well when i'm alone..at least not most of the time-there's got be a balance:)
've got to share my mind with others, stay connected, push myself further...improve...
..try to look around me with eyes of some1 else...just to feel that you are not alone...

don't you feel bad, that people don't have reasons to be with you?

vlastne som podobny ako ty- tiez mi vyhovuje byt samostatny na nikoho prilis naviazany...
akurat mam semtam pocit, ze o nieco prichadzam a ten mam prave poslednu dobu...
inac celkom zaujimave sa vyjadrovat so svojou "broken english" - som nikdy neskusal:)

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 17:48:58 , level: 4, UP   NEW
:)

niekedy nieco iba pripominat pocit samoty a prazdna,,
napr ked uspesne povypinam filtre,, a nastavim mind
na prijimanie myslienok,, alebo iba na klud, a upratovanie mind adresarov,,
alternative thinking,, freeing myself from the hungry world around me,,
disconnecting mind from bullshit tesco-like influences,,

don't you feel bad, that people don't have reasons to be with you?
-- earlier, it used to be like that,, but later,, it is because
of a reasons,, we have friends because of a reason,
we love and are loved because of a reason,,
and some things look like they dont have any reason :)
--today,, i am ok,, mind connections are cool :)))
sometimes, i dont have reasons to be with people..
i enjoy to be quiet,, just to listen to thoughs,,
not to talk about weather, politics, how much a barrel of petrol costs,,

hence, many people enjoy talking about nothing,,
sometimes do i, as a part of feeling,, but sometimes i do not,,

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polar
 polar      22.08.2004 - 15:50:01 , level: 1, UP   NEW
ide to byt silny / nezranitelny alebo milovat, a naplnit napr. aj takto svoju existenciu (osobne si myslim ze len toto je skutocne naplnenie)?

"lost your love" - co myslis "love"? svoju schopnost milovat, opatovanie lasky, lasku k danemu cloveku... ?? a nebolo by najlepsie "milovat a nechat zit"? nebolo by "optimalne" milovat a neprivazovat svoje srdce k nicomu? nebolo by to lepsie ako zavrhovat lasku ako taku?

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polar
 polar      23.08.2004 - 08:13:11 , level: 2, UP   NEW
uhm

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:30:47 , level: 2, UP   NEW
"lost your love"
napr ked sa dvaja rozidu,, ked clovek strati lasku,, ktora mu je davana,

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:16:14 , level: 2, UP   NEW
ja neviem ci zavrhujem lasku,, mam v sebe vela "bytosti", a kazda backtrackuje
rozlicne moznosti,, na com sa asi v sebe vacsinovo zhodnem, ze slovo laska
je obsolete,, a chcelo by to nove slova,,


ide to byt silny / nezranitelny alebo milovat, a naplnit napr. aj takto svoju existenciu (osobne si myslim ze len toto je skutocne naplnenie)?
-- skutocne naplnenie, je z mojho pohladu relativne,, kazdy si ho vybera
sam,, alebo ho ma nejak nadefinovane (zadratovane od narodenia napr,
vychova a pod),,
skutocne naplnenie (ako ciel) si moze kazda bytosti zmenit,
prepisat, rozhodnut sa inak, a potom kludne zmenit na stare,,

kriticke je,, ked nemoze naplnit svoje skutocne naplnenie,
vacsinou sa taki clovek emocne zruti,,, pohoda, redefine,,
(inak redefinition je trochu psycho, ked si clovek uvedomi,
kolko filtrov uz vypol a aku slobodu nabral,, boooost , ale rJadny :) )

"optimalne" milovat a neprivazovat svoje srdce k nicomu? nebolo by to lepsie ako zavrhovat lasku ako taku?
-- pre jednu z "mojich bytosti" optimalne prilis neexistuje,,
milujem prirodu, zvieratka, a zaroven mi chuti ich maso,,
pre niekoho mozem byt tymto zvrateny, a tieto dve veci nejdu dokopy,,

ja to vnimam tak,, za "milovat a nechat zit" su nejake (povedzme)
emocie, alebo nejaky vysledok, mind/feeling state,, ktory clovek ziska,
ked tak bude konat,,, a niekto kto pozna vysledky konani,
si vybera ako konat podla tychto vysledkov, a nie podla slov, ktorymi su
cinnosti opisane,,

laska pre mna,, medzi dvoma ludmi,,
moze to byt very high feelings(==data, information, containts algorithms,
solutions for problems,, strength) transfer,, napr,
definiciu ma asi kazdy svoju, a trosku inu,, ja nemam ziadnu konkretnu,
co by uspokojila kazdeho :)

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Lukas
 Lukas      22.08.2004 - 15:54:56 , level: 2, UP   NEW
jo, ved najvyssia forma lasky je podla mna to, ked niekoho mmilujes tak velmi, ze sa ho preto dokazes aj navzdy vzdat.

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:05:41 , level: 3, UP   NEW
no moze byt,, ale moze to byt zaroven aj najvyssia forma zneuzitia,,
napr taky problem: laska versus skola,,

pre mna je normalne, ked si dvaja ludia robia skolu,, pretoze su mladi
a ide im o buduce zabezpecenie sa,, a casto sa nevidia,,,
nie je mi normalne, ked niekto ukonci skolu iba preto,
aby uspokojil toho druheho a bol s nim 24-hodin,, to je z mojho pohladu
zneuzitie lasky,,, "ja chcem prezivat teraz, ja nechcem umriet nemilovany/a"

jo je to pekne, oddat sa druhemu, vsetkym, ponorit sa do jeho emocneho paperia,,
(aspon podla mojich mind simulacii :) )
a hlavne v tedy, ked viem, ze mi nebude predefinovavat kriticke hodnoty
a dovody konania

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Lukas
 Lukas      22.08.2004 - 16:08:31 , level: 4, UP   NEW
to mas pravdu...jasne, znie to sice, mozno sebecky, ale viem co myslis.

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polar
 polar      22.08.2004 - 15:51:41 , level: 2, UP   NEW
a este ma napada jeden citat, ktory mi pripada ze plati v tejto oblasti: "v slabosti je sila".

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 15:54:29 , level: 3, UP   NEW
hej pekny,, ale ja by som ho prepisal, ked sa chces stat silnym,,
nerob si iluzie o tvojich slabostiach, a pusti si ich uvedomenie k sebe :)

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Lukas
 Lukas      22.08.2004 - 15:39:35 , level: 1, UP   NEW
to iste som si myslel ja ja.
neviem ci ta laska urobi silnejsim,...ale skor ci neskor to pride a mozno z toho budes v pici. Tak ako som bol aj ja, ale zistil som ze...don´t fight it, let it flow.Lasku nikto nevynasiel, je tu, bola a bude...tak to asi tak ma byt, napriek vsetkemu.
a mimochodom je to fajn:)
čistý ŠTOF!

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 15:53:26 , level: 2, UP   NEW
no jo, mozno je to pravda, ale ja to zatial vidim takto,,

co sa stalo tebe, bolo vyuzitie security hole in your mind,,
ak nieco dokaze utlmit pamet a prepisovat adresy instrukcii v mozgu,,
tak proste vyhral a budes z toho mimo, nech sa to nazyva laska,
alebo sa tomu hovori psycholog ci psychiater,,,

ja som to na sebe skumal a postupom casu sa naucil filtrovat
tieto "utoky",, a je to cool,,,

a mne sa ti nejak casto stava, ze ked pride "laska"
tak ma zacne predefinovavat, moje ciele a hodnoty,,
a to proste neakceptujem,, minimalne v tomto obdobi,
ktore bude trvat este dlho,,, ja som vcelku rad, kam som sa vedomim/vnimanim
dostal,, a vidim to tak, ze niektore typy "laskyplnych" pocitov
by sposobili, ze by som nechcel rast a pracovat na sebe,,
ale iba sa oddavat uzivaniu si,,

inak, osobne by som si prial, aby prislo nieco take laskyplne silne,,
nech si otestujem svoj software :)

ale obavam sa, ze take nie je,,, musel by som si nechat vymazat pamet,
a to zatial nie,,

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Lukas
 Lukas      22.08.2004 - 16:03:36 , level: 3, UP   NEW
..:)
ja som tiez sam seba nepoznaval,bol som zaskoceny, ako dost to cloveka ovlada.
terba sa na tom naucit surfovat:)
..a z casu nacas si to ocheckovat z nadhladu, ved tych moznosti, ako sa to da je vela ;))

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crowd​ control
 crowd​ control      22.08.2004 - 14:26:23 , level: 1, UP   NEW
vsetko sa da len treba chciet

vola je dharma karmy

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:18:44 , level: 2, UP   NEW
nic, to mame od boha,
no a zbytek si udelame sami :)))

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Killswitch
 Killswitch      22.08.2004 - 14:13:48 , level: 1, UP   NEW
no God, no law - that's NOT true!

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 16:01:08 , level: 2, UP   NEW
so, hello stranger,, can u tell me your truth? your world?

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Killswitch
 Killswitch      22.08.2004 - 22:18:27 , level: 3, UP   NEW
^ kazdy ma svoju pravdu tato je moja
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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 23:09:53 , level: 4, UP   NEW
este by si mi mohol vysvetlit co to znamena, resp ako to myslis?
If there is God, preco sa nestara o zivot, preco kasle na to,
ze ludia nicia Zem,, ak je laska,, preco kasle na to,
ze ludia nicia Zem? vacsine typov lasky, ide iba prezitie/precitenie
bez ohladu na dosledky,, mnozme sa az kym vsetko vyzerieme a umrieme na hlad,,
laska nema kontrolny mechanizmus,,

K comu je taki God, ktoremu je jedno ze zivot na Zemi umrie?
A k comu je taki God, ktory bude vyberat tych co budu zit
a tych co zit nebudu?

If you say that I am wrong, then also say why,,

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Killswitch
 Killswitch      23.08.2004 - 21:26:28 , level: 5, UP   NEW
keby ho nebolo davno by sme sa vynicili ver tomu a dakuj mu ze to tu este je a moze sa to hoc kedy skoncit a to nevies kedy a ako.

btw dal slobodnu volu ludom jemu nejde o to aby tu nieco prezilo ale su ludia ktory ho o to prosia tak to splni a pomoze

precitaj si genezis viac o tom snad...

urcite Boh je o tom som presvedceny!

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rigor
 rigor      21.08.2004 - 21:59:37 , level: 1, UP   NEW
could U feel love while beein so strong, independent, not in need of anyone ... ?
is love not also beein weak, rely on someone, not believnig just in yourself ???

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 00:02:32 , level: 2, UP   NEW
is love not also beein weak, rely on someone, not believnig just in yourself ???
--maybe,, if you were to love someone, who would you rather choose?
someone who you can rely on, and believe in,,
or someone who is weak, and wants to rely on you and believe in you?

the hardwired thing in ourselves is to choose what is better,,
and to apologize this natural selection, a feeling of love
has been created :)

and is also likey to be abused by the weak, to blindly enslave the strong,,
but since we say there is love and so many feelings, it is ok,
that the stupid bitch commands that poor inteligent being :)))

love can be also when two "equals" and "similars" meet,,
and many more, I am just trying to give real names to some relations,
so i wont die because of ilusions breaking,,

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rigor
 rigor      22.08.2004 - 02:02:56 , level: 3, UP   NEW
I love someone who is weak and fragile, the same as I am sometimes weak and fragile...and I didnt choosed it , it choosed me... &

humans are weak beeings they depend on various values...more complicated machine U create more fragile it becomes, price for beein mortal is the variety of sensation and feelings.

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 12:31:11 [1K] , level: 4, UP   NEW
a to co mi trosku vadilo na mne : "it choosed me",,
ja som ti od prirody taky tvor, ze nenavidim, ked mi niekto prikazuje :)
pokial to nie je rozumne :)

takze,, som si pekne krasne vytvoril system,, ktory sa neporuca laske,
emociam, nikomu,, a zaroven mozem prezivat, milovat citit kedykolvek,,
ja si vyberam ci to chcem,,

je na mieste otazka, ci mi ten vyber niekto/nieco nevnuti,,,
myslim si ze nie,, pretoze sa chovam racionalne v zmysle zabezpecit telu zivot,,

priklad:
chcem sa hrat, flakat, uzivat si,, ibaze mi treba robit skusky,
pohoda, vypnem a koncetrujem sa,,, naucil som sa ucit emocie,,
spojit dokopy mind & feelings,, and it works fine,,


humans are weak beeings they depend on various values...more complicated machine U create more fragile it becomes, price for beein mortal is the variety of sensation and feelings.

-- i think they do not have to be weak, they do not have to depend
on what they do not want to,,, the start is to believe in their powers
to change themselves in whatever they want to :)


more complicated machine U create more fragile it becomes, price for beein mortal is the variety of sensation and feelings.
-- i guess, i disagree,, once it may happen that it is so complicated,
that it can repare itself, redefine, change, do everything,,

my choice is not to be weak, not to be easily influenced by
stupid feelings like buy, buy more,, eat, eat more,,
the one who masters such things, can control humans without they even notice anything,, but i have a strange feeling, that you do know all of what i write ;)
do you?

i see it as a choice,, break down and cry, or go and solve the problem,,
feelings are fine, it wont go away,, you can recall it anytime u want


the variety of sensation and feelings.
-- this was one of the primary reasons that lead me to create
something independend,, i got both now,, the high storms of chaos feelings,
and also mashine like accurate thinking/ deciding system,, woooo hooooo :)))

if there is a problem a cry for,, i go and solve it, and cry no more,
it is such simple,,

love is a choice

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      21.08.2004 - 23:54:52 , level: 2, UP   NEW
pretty good questions,, (i hope to have so good answers :) )

could U feel love while beein so strong, independent, not in need of anyone ... ?
i would say yes, it is joy and pain at the same time,

i see myself this way,, but,
going deeper, deviding the word love and its sense into more detailed
structures,, i would say that the word love becomes obsolete,
highly inaccurate,,, and such truth(as i see it) may be
pretty much destructive for someone whose life goal is love,
to feel it, die for it,,, and when this occures,,
most of the mashine's vital subsystems (the human body, soul and whatever else)
have no reasons to continue life,, but, this is just a state of mind,
and drastic redefinning of oneself solves this problem,, :D
(just to choose the reasons :) )
(yes, i can redefine myself, i can switch feelings on and off,
i can choose to feel love, or not,, i dont mind,, there is more
than love :) ))

one thing i see about love is the data transfer betweem two beings,,
once i have the neccessary data i was looking for then the
feeling (part of it, very strong part) flows away,,

another thing about love program is to ensure survival of human race,
yes, it feels gorgeous,, and therefore we prise it high,,
but it is "just an abuse" of human interface :)
to obey every rational thinking not to do this and that :)

and so on (i stop here, not to be boring :) )

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rigor
 rigor      22.08.2004 - 02:09:24 , level: 3, UP   NEW
quetion but I do not realy await an answer,
Why do U think U Are writin this all in English ? /cauze I guess it aint your born language/
could U feel the same while writin it in SK ? :P

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BlackDeath
 BlackDeath      22.08.2004 - 12:35:52 , level: 4, UP   NEW
asi hej,, ibaze tak by to bolo citlivejsie :), viac sa ma to dotyka, jadra,,
a imho, ked potrebujem stabilitu, (rad robim veci naraz)
tak pisem v anglictine,, pride mi to rychlejsie,
a slovencina sa mi niekedy zda moc pomala na rychle vyjadrenie sa,,
na rychlu vymenu informacii,,, ale o to presnejsia moze byt,, aj zvucnejsia,,

btw, you guess right, english is not my native language :)
do I write so well? :)))

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truce_erizame
 truce_erizame      21.08.2004 - 22:18:38 , level: 2, UP   NEW
i felt it
but not like a wish or need or greed
but like a joy

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truce_erizame
 truce_erizame      21.08.2004 - 21:15:41 , level: 1, UP   NEW
pure
true
as i can feel it just.right.now.
love will make person addictive

for now
i have to be a big girl
strong
independent
like i was it before!

fucking emotions and tactile sensoric deprivation...