Re: 14.12.2022-11:28:23 :: Remember, remember, the velvet November


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Je to z pohľadu zásahu do prostredia úplne zle, alebo sa to zdá len mne?

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tak v tej pusti ti to moze byt jedno. ja len neviem ako to chcu energeticky utiahnut, pitna voda a dalsie detaily, ako napriklad kde zozenu ten milion ludi, co tam bude byvat?

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podla mna tam bude smrad

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Ani nie

"What the prince doesn’t say is that there are already thousands of people living in harmony with nature in the same area: a tribal community that has been there for centuries and is now being replaced by the project. One of these tribesmen made videos protesting the evictions — videos of a different sort, you might imagine, than the one M.B.S. has produced. He was shot dead last year in a confrontation with Saudi security forces.

Anyone who has spent time in Saudi Arabia’s existing cities can sympathize with the desire to start anew. They are dusty and ugly. Narrow-minded clerics preside over corrupt bureaucracies that are resistant to change. But the Saudi landscape is already dotted with failed or abandoned megaprojects. Some Saudis have responded to M.B.S.’s film with acid comments about the need to renovate the country’s existing towns and neighborhoods before throwing billions into another Xanadu. Jamal Khashoggi suggested as much in a column written with a co-author a few months before he was murdered.

After M.B.S. finishes his presentation, a warm female voice describes life in the Line. The urban dystopia recedes, and happier images parade before us: misty mountaintops, waves lapping a pristine coast.

The film’s final words, spoken as a multicultural parade of faces flickers across the screen, are deliciously preposterous: “A home to all of us — welcome to the Line.” As I heard it, I couldn’t help wondering about the woman who spoke those words. Would she even consider moving to a remote desert city, to be subject to 24/7 surveillance and the whims of a murderous prince? My guess is that she did what so many others who work for the Saudis have done: spoke her lines, picked up the check and fled."
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/magazine/saudi-arabia-neom-the-line.html

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je to totalna picovina on all possible levels

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Istá časť mňa to vníma tiež tak. Len som to diplomatickejšie vyjadril. :)

hlúposti mažem

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Ista cast? Nejaka cast tam vidi nieco pozitivne?

Tam vobec neni co riesit, je to arogancia a megalomania najhorsieho kalibru, totalna dystopia co sa tyka teoretickych buducich obyvatelov a uplny nonsens v kazdom ohlade (technicky, enviromentalne, financne...)

Jedine pozitivum na tom vidim, ze je to dobry namet na cyberpunkovu novelu

Tuto je tiez dobry appel pre architektov:

"There is no other way to say this: if you accept money to work on any aspect of the Neom project, you need to know that you are complicit in these acts of violence and cultural erasure.

So, yes: there is no question whatsoever that resolving the design and engineering challenges posed by dropping a hundred-mile linear city in the middle of uninhabitable desert makes Neom a "technically sweet" project. If, that is, the abovementioned fundamental thermodynamic constraints are even amenable to resolution, which is highly doubtful on our rapidly and catastrophically heating planet.

But that really oughtn't be your central consideration. What should weigh most significantly in your calculus is whether the satisfaction of working on this project, and the compensation that attends that work, will ever compensate for your participation in an ecological and moral atrocity."

"Now I am become Death, destroyer of worlds." Neom is not, it is true, atomic obliteration, or anything remotely like it. But it has already brought death, and in carving a line through a living, breathing community, all of those complicit in its design and construction are already destroyers of worlds.
https://www.dezeen.com/2022/11/02/neom-the-line-saudi-arabia-architects-opinion/

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Je to fascinujúce, tieto megalomanské projekty. Zároveň myslienka nezávislosti. Ale to je tak par percent a aj pocitovo ma to irituje.

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