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https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/02/07/digital-minimalism-phone-social-media-addiction

"It's definitely gotten worse. A big part of this is that the user experience of social media was re-engineered so that it would foster more compulsive use. So Facebook 10 years ago is an experience that's very different than Facebook today. Ten years ago, you were looking at your friends' profiles. Today, it's this unending stream of rich rewards, likes, @ tags and @ comments, that are coming at you all day long, that you have to keep compulsively checking."

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"What one woman told me that during the first week, she was so used to checking her phone for new information, that after she took all of the apps off for this declutter, she found herself compulsively checking the weather app. So who was the last thing that was left out there that you could click on and maybe get some new information. But after about 10 days, 14 days, that went away. And most people reported by the time they got to the 30 days, they had really lost their taste for having this low-quality, always-on digital stream being a part of their life."




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sestra
 sestra      23.09.2019 - 16:52:57 (modif: 23.09.2019 - 16:53:30) [1K] , level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Something's in the air. I think people are finally getting fed up with how much of their humanity they're losing to always staring at these screens. And so my more optimistic prediction is that we have become so tired of how enslaved we've become, that we are going to revolt.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      19.09.2019 - 08:18:01 (modif: 19.09.2019 - 08:18:57), level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
odkedy tlacia tie stories, tak mam prakticky prazdny news feed a tak to preskrolujem za 10 sekund miesto par minut...

inak to, ze je niekto takto zaseknuty je skor jeho problem. casto ide o kombinaciu nudy a dojebanej psychiky.

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toxygen
 toxygen      20.09.2019 - 07:32:59 , level: 2, UP   NEW
"inak to, ze je niekto takto zaseknuty je skor jeho problem. casto ide o kombinaciu nudy a dojebanej psychiky."

casto ta dojebana psychika vznika hlavne kvoli social media. ked si dieta a fb/ig/twitter su pre teba "normalna" vec a netusis ake by to bolo bez nich (narozdiel od starsej generacie), tak ta psychika v podstate nema sancu sa normalne vyvinut.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      20.09.2019 - 07:56:01 , level: 3, UP   NEW
vzdy sa najde dovod preco to je chyba niekoho ineho a nie vlastna volba

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toxygen
 toxygen      20.09.2019 - 08:06:16 , level: 4, UP   NEW
u deti tam ta volba casto ani nie je. u dospelych je to samozrejme o volbe.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      20.09.2019 - 08:09:18 (modif: 20.09.2019 - 08:09:52), level: 5, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
iba pokial veris, ze to takto funguje. preco si dospely moze zvolit, ze "prestane skrolovat fejsbucik" a dieta nie? resp. dieta, ktore sa vyvinulo s fejsbucikom...

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toxygen
 toxygen      20.09.2019 - 08:18:12 , level: 6, UP   NEW
kym som napisal prispevok nizsie, tak si trochu poeditoval ten svoj, tak odpoved na to, preco si myslim, ze dieta nema sancu samo vyliezt z dopaminovej pasce facebooku a dospely ano je ta, ze dospely ma vacsi obraz sveta a vie si vybrat aj z dalsich zazitkov/pribehov, ktore chce prezivat narozdiel od scrollovania a citania cudzich pribehov. dieta tento "nadhlad" nema a casto fb/yt/ig su jeho "realnym" svetom.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      20.09.2019 - 08:29:51 , level: 7, UP   NEW
porovnavat dieta priamo sa neda, preto som to doplnil. v tomto to necham pri tom, ze si rozhodne nemyslim, ze by bolo nezvratne poznacene pouzivanim toho co si uviedol. v niektorych pripadoch moze ist aj o pozitivnejsie ladene komunity nez take 1990's petrzalske sidlisko...

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toxygen
 toxygen      20.09.2019 - 08:11:16 , level: 6, UP   NEW
dieta nepozna ine alternativy, ak vyrasta v tom, tu mas telefon a hraj sa.

dospely ma s cim porovnat (ako ktory teda), takze ma vacsiu moznost (a nezavislost) si zvolit. vyvoj dietata spociva v tom, ze kopiruje chovanie ludi okolo seba (hlavne rodicov, ale aj ostatnych). pokial u nich vidi cumenie do telefonu, da sa povedat, ze nema sancu sa tomu ubranit (na biologickej rovine).

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      20.09.2019 - 08:19:34 , level: 7, UP   NEW
pokial tomu veris, ze to tak je, tak sa neda argumentovat.

ja zase verim tomu, ze clovek si na lepsie zvykne lahko. ja som tiez vyrastal s pocitacom a uz som 15 rokov nonstop zafloodovany contentom a nie je lahke najst mieru kedy je to este prinosne a kedy uz nie. a prave fyzicke nepohodlie a neefektivita su z dovody preco nemam/nepouzivam smartphone.

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toxygen
 toxygen      23.09.2019 - 12:40:11 , level: 8, UP   NEW
samozrejme, ze sa da argumentovat aj ked verim niecomu inemu ako ty.

ani jeden nemame patent na pravdu, od toho su tu argumenty, aby sme sa posunuli dopredu v nazoroch.

nemam chut tu o tom moc debatovat, ale ak ta to zaujima tak zakladne info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observational_learning
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/monkey_see_monkey_do_model_behavior_in_early_childhood

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      23.09.2019 - 13:04:41 , level: 9, UP   NEW
viac nez o posunutie svojich nazorov ti ide o posunutie mojich nazorov.

ale nic si z toho nerob, je to celkom bezne.

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toxygen
 toxygen      23.09.2019 - 14:02:18 , level: 10, UP   NEW
nie, ide mi o vymenu informacii a idealne posunutie nazorov oboch stran. preto nemam zaujem pokracovat, lebo to beries ako winner/loser debate a to pre mna nie je ciel.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      23.09.2019 - 14:03:38 , level: 11, UP   NEW
moju informaciu o tom, ze sa to da volovo prekonat si sa rozhodol neprijat. tak neviem co este chces.

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toxygen
 toxygen      23.09.2019 - 14:29:54 , level: 12, UP   NEW
jednak lebo je to v rozpore s tym, ako sa vyvija a funguje ludsky mozog (k comu som ti poslal zdroje) a jednak si to nicim nepodlozil.

je to dostatocne preskumana oblast a moderny digitalny svet je budovany na zneuziti tychto slabin:
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2018/dopamine-smartphones-battle-time/
https://www.theskimm.com/live-smarter/health/social-media-addiction
https://medium.com/@Reece_Robertson/why-youre-addicted-to-social-media-dopamine-technology-inequality-c2cca07ed3ee
https://www.sciencefocus.com/future-technology/trapped-the-secret-ways-social-media-is-built-to-be-addictive-and-what-you-can-do-to-fight-back/

ty tvrdis, ze ludia sa mozu rozhodnut s tym prestat. to jednoducho nie je pravda. urcite je iste percento ludi, ktori to spravit mozu (zvacsa dospeli ludia), ale pre vacsinu deti to jednoducho mozne nie je, kvoli tomu, ako funguje ich mozog. nie je to o slobodnom rozhodnuti o nic viac ako to, ci sa ti budu pacit chlapci alebo dievcata. socialne media zneuzivaju sposob akym mozog funguje na to, aby si bol na tychto mediach zavisly.

dokazes sa z fb zmazat ty? ano.
ja? most likely yes.
nahodne vybraty dnesny teenager? i don't think so.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      23.09.2019 - 14:34:37 (modif: 23.09.2019 - 14:35:41), level: 13, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
keby to bolo sucastou mojho socialneho zivota, tak by som to nemohol spravit ani ja. neviem preco by si mal ktokolvek mazat svoj socialny zivot, len preto, ze ty veris, ze je to vsetko bububu evil master plan.

don't blame the tools, man.

ale uz stacilo, ja ta presvedcit nepotrebujem. ked chces verit, ze je to tak, tak tomu ver.

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toxygen
 toxygen      23.09.2019 - 15:13:35 , level: 14, UP   NEW
myslim, ze ja nie som ten, ktory ignoruje argumenty/fakty.

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      23.09.2019 - 15:15:44 , level: 15, UP   NEW
https://kyberia.sk/id/8664561

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toxygen
 toxygen      25.09.2019 - 02:52:14 , level: 16, UP   NEW
https://www.irozhlas.cz/zivotni-styl/spolecnost/neurolog-stransky-mozek-rozhovor-facebook-twitter-socialni-site-dopamin-lajk_1904210700_och

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      25.09.2019 - 07:13:57 , level: 17, UP   NEW
pokial "kvoli" socialnym sietam rastie uzkost a depresie, tak urcite na ovela vyssej urovni, nez hormonalnej. s dopaminom a inymi hormonmi sa stretavas vsade, lebo je to zaklad fungovania mozgu a celeho organizmu. je to akoby si ratal kvapnutie do vane.

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toxygen
 toxygen      26.09.2019 - 11:56:22 , level: 18, UP   NEW
slusna mentalna gymnastika, thumbs up

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      26.09.2019 - 12:06:31 , level: 19, UP   NEW
slusna pasivna agresivita, thumbs down