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17.08.2016 - 12:50:16
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Re[5]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
no presne tak som to ja myslel. ze chapanie boha z hladiska sociologie a neurovedy.
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17.08.2016 - 12:49:36
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Je to tvrdenie cloveka ktory zatial nevidel nic co by dokazovalo opak. Mohli by sme to mozno nazvat skepticizmus. Dogmatizmus je vsak uplne mimo.
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17.08.2016 - 12:51:35
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dogmatizmus to je, ked sa vyjadris pozitivne, napr. "boh existuje ako myslienka" (resp. ..."a preto veda skumajuca mysel by sa nou mala zaoberat")
skepticizmus by bol, kebyze spochybnis take tvrdenie, alebo sa zdrzis usudku; ten je vsak, podla mna, vseobecne nekompatibilny s kogn.vedou, lebo ta sa snazi cez mysel vysvetlit vsetko
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17.08.2016 - 13:11:02
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Zdrzat sa usudku by mozno bolo na mieste keby slo o situaciu s roznou evidence, ale tu vsetko ukazuje jednym smerom. Bez ohladu na kognitivne vedy - ziadna veda hodna tohto slova neumiestnuje boha nikde inde. Skepticizmus je spochybnovat, ked niekto napise opak.
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17.08.2016 - 13:34:10
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Re[8]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
vyraz "evidence" neexistuje v slovencine
ono je odlisne, ked hovorime o "bohu ako predmete viery" a "bohu ako predmete teologie"; ked riesis koncept "boha" z hladiska kogn.vedy je to ine ako ked sa vyjadrujes k teologii, ktorej "bohom" moze byt napr. nejaky strom ci predkovia; veda neriesi "vsetko", napr. spravodlivost nejakeho zakona alebo opodstatnenost tvojej dogmy
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17.08.2016 - 13:51:15
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Veda samozrejme moze riesit spravodlivost zakona aj tvoje dogmy. Su veci ktore su pod jej rozlisovacou schopnostou, ale aj to treba najprv zistit a nie len povedat. To by bola totiz dogma, ako s tym platonom.
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Re[10]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
podla mna si to protireci (nieco povies, a potom povies ze by si si to mal najprv zistit a potom o tom hovorit), ale tesim sa, ze si aspon ochotny sa o tom bavit <3
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17.08.2016 - 15:31:19
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Re[11]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
Ano, vedeckymi metodami je mozne stanovit, co je mozne stanovit a co nie.
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Re[11]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
V com si to protireci?
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17.08.2016 - 13:42:57
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Re[9]: Computational Meta-Psychology [32c3]
to je to vecne nepochopenie ze boh sa neda vyvratit alebo skumat vedou pre veriacich
ze to je celkom odlisny vztah pre veriacich a aj keby veda prisla s niecim ako "vyvratenim ci dokazom boha" pre veriacich to je irelevantne