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"What's more impressive than sharks with laser beams? Dolphins with nuclear missiles. And that's the newest member of Israel's navy. A Dolphin-class submarine, anyway.

Christened the INS Tanin, this Dolphin-class submarine is both the largest sub produced by Germany since WWII and the most expensive vehicles owned by the IDF. It's also widely regarded as among the most sophisticated, stealthy, and effective conventionally-powered (i.e. non-nuclear) submarines on the the planet.

The Tanin, which is just the fourth submarine in Israel's fleet, is an example of the slightly larger, slightly newer Dolphin 2 design, measures 225 feet in length with a 22 foot beam and 20 foot drought. Three diesel-electric motors generate 4,243 shp apiece, giving the Tanin a top speed of 25 knots underwater. A compliment of just 35 crewmen is all that is needed to operate the vessel. What's more, it's outfitted with an advanced air-independent propulsion system.

See, the until the advent of nuclear propulsion, submarines could only hold their breath (quite literally) for limited amounts of time. Their diesel engines required oxygen to run and once that supply ran out, the engines died. AIP technology, conversely, works like a hybrid car. Diesel engines recharge massive Li-ion batteries that power a silent propulsion system which is not limited by the need for oxygen, only by the capacity of the batteries.

And while the mascot isn't exactly terrifying, these dolphins pack a punch. They're equipped with room for up to 16 torpedoes and cruise missiles. Four enormous 650mm tubes can be used for anything from subsea mines to special forces infiltration vehicles.

More importantly, these tubes can launch SLCMs (sub-launched cruise missiles)—like the Popeye—which are capable of travelling more than 900 miles and are rumored to have been outfitted with 440-pound nuclear-tipped warheads. This would offer Israel a potent first strike capability as well as serve as a doomsday backup, giving Israel a chance to counter from offshore any inbound nuclear attack—sort of a way to just make things worse for an entire planet already enveloped in thermonuclear war.

"The submarine will amplify the capabilities of the IDF and the State of Israel's strength," Lieutenant General (res.) Ehud Barak, Israel's Minister of Defense, said during a press conference in 2012 during the initial purchase of the vessels from Germany at a cost of $1.27 billion. "The Navy has undergone strategic changes over the past few years that place it at the forefront of the battle over the safety of Israel, as the long arm of the IDF. The agreement reflects the strong relations with Germany and the German government's commitment to Israeli security."

After a two week journey from a Kiel, Germany shipyard, the INS Tanin arrived in the port of Haifa on Monday where it will undergo a quick set of final tweaks before entering service with the Israeli Navy. It will soon be joined by two more submarines: another Dolphin 2 called the Rahav and an as-of-yet unnamed sixth sub in 2019. [IDF 1, 2 - Haaratz 1, 2 - Wiki - DID]"


http://gizmodo.com/israels-first-second-strike-submarine-is-a-dolphin-wi-1632090138




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 slash      22.09.2014 - 10:37:53 , level: 1, UP   NEW
Nemali tie dolphiny aj fuel cell pohon nahodou ci to len testuju este?

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 spectre      23.09.2014 - 13:49:10 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Tieto nove (Tannin, Rahav a este jedna by mala byt) uz maju mat palivove clanky od Siemensu. Je to ten vyssie spominany "air-independent propulsion system".

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 slash      24.09.2014 - 08:24:56 , level: 3, UP   NEW
...ak tomu teda dobre rozumiem su tie dolphiny - obzvlast tieto vacsejsie s palivovymi clankami vlastne momentalne idealne ponorky - eliminovali zvukovu signaturu, elimiminovali teplotnu signaturu (oproti nuclear) a su aj mensie pricom si zachovali vsetky schopnosti

tusim aj vyhrali nemci nejake namorne cvicenie nad amikmi a fra/uk vdaka tomu nedavno - otazkou ostava ako sa k tomu postavi cina

uk stavia nove atomove a amici stale potrebuju nahanat sa s rusmi v tych prerastenych balistickych...

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 spectre      24.09.2014 - 09:14:55 [1K] , level: 4, UP   NEW
Podla mna to stale nie su idealne ponorky. Aj s palivovymi clankami je ta ponorka vyrazne obmedzena pod vodou. Klasicky na baterie zvladne len cca 800km pri 8 uzloch a na palivove clanky cca 2300 km pri 4 uzloch (oficialne dostupne udaje pre exportny typ 214). Tzn. sice pomerne dost km ale velmi velmi pomaly. Pri maximalnej rychlosti okolo 25 uzlov bude ten dosah samozrejme vyrazne mensi. Posledne nemecke verzie typu 212 na tom mozno budu o nieco lepsie.

Na porovnanie pre sucasne americke nuklearne utocne ponorky (Los Angeles/Seawolf) sa uvadza rychlost 30-35 uzlov a rychlost okolo 25 uzlov moze pod hladinou udrziavat neobmedzene dlho. V podstate su obmedzeni len zasobami potravin a nutnostou udrzby strojov. Palivo v Los Angeles class sa meni po 30 rokoch. Dolphin ma zasoby cca na 30 dni a Los Angles/Seawolf na cca 90 dni. Takze operacny dosah je pre nuklearne ponorky stale nasobne vacsi ale aj naklady na ne su nasobne vacsie.

Tichost a detekovatelnost neviem posudit. Z verejne dostupnych zdrojov sa to da dost tazko. Akurat viem, ze exportny Type 214 Dolphinu nema niektore tajne technologie ako Type 212 pre nemecke namornictvo. Napr. magneticky nedetekovatelny trup ponorky. Ci to Izraelcom predali je otazka ale skor asi nie. Skor len dorovnavaju pocty lebo Turkom predali tiez 6 Type 214. :)

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 slash      24.09.2014 - 09:25:35 (modif: 24.09.2014 - 09:26:48), level: 5, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ok - co sa dosahu a rychlosti tyka mas samozrejme pravdu ale ostava otazkou co vlastne treba - ak len potrebujes mat v zalohe na relativne malom operacnom priestore raketovu zakladnu tak imho stacia - ak potrebujes riesit globalne presuny a hrozby tak samozrejme nie - to by si ich musel mat vela strategicky rozmiestnene a zasobovat ich nakladnou nuklearnou ponorkou na doplnanie paliva etc - co by mozno tiez v konecnom dosledku bolo menej nakladne a vzhladom na obratnost a velkost tej ponorky ako ciela aj vhodnejsie mozno - to len moje zbytocne uvahy ;)

kazdopadne su zbranou druheho sledu pax excelence - a s moznostou stealth vysadkov a plochodraznych striel s konvencnymi hlavicami aj celkom fit na special ops

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 spectre      24.09.2014 - 10:48:04 , level: 6, UP   NEW
Imho dieselelektricke ponorky maju len jedinu podstatnu vyhodu - relativne nizku cenu. Niekde som cital, ze dieselelektricke ponorky vlastni uz 40 krajin. Rusi (trieda Kilo), Nemci alebo Francuzi (trieda Scorpene) z toho maju celkom dobry kseft. :)

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 slash      24.09.2014 - 23:22:36 [1K] , level: 7, UP   NEW
...aj tak su vlastne prvym vystrelom prezradene tak naco drahe s velkymi posadkami? ;)

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 slash      24.09.2014 - 07:42:56 , level: 3, UP   NEW
ok - dikes - tak som si dobre zapamatal...

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 dnes nie je moj den      22.09.2014 - 21:06:47 , level: 2, UP   NEW
...i dunno, "predavam ako som kupil".