Re[10]: Fairtrade obchod - Zivica :: Something smarter than us is going to emerge


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prepac ale tieto citaty co si sem dal vobec nepredkladaju argumenty, preco by green building nemohlo zahrnovat aj prerabanie strarych budov na sustainable.

prave naopak, pozeram sa na ten zdroj co si dal www.zelena-architektura.cz a otvorila som link rakuskych green building architektov, ktori ocividne prerabaju aj starsie stavby:
http://www.reinberg.net/architektur/68
http://www.reinberg.net/architektur/40

Nechcelo sa mi hladat dalsie priklady, tak pouzivam len tento zdroj ktory si mi ponukol, ked budes chciet najdem ti aj dalsie. ja chapem ze green building je hlavne o novych stavbach a novych preciznych a setrnych rieseniach ale niekedy pozaduju zakaznici o zachovat povodny vyzor stavieb (alebo mesto nedovoluje v jeho historickej casti stavat nieco nove, ale chce skor "pretvorit" stare budovy), kedy architekti musia pracovat s povodnymi stavbami a "zenvironmentalnovat" ich- tym padom casto aj napr. zatepluju a inak upravuju.

koniec koncov to nie je vobec zle- burat stare a stavat nove green buildings vobec nie je ucinne (ani environmentalne) a preto vacsina architektov vnima sustainable buildings nielen ako projekty uplne novych stavieb, ale aj prerabanie tych starych. www.greenbuilding.com

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Omfg :) Ja s tebou nedebatujem. Popisal som ti fakt. A co ze nejaki architekti riesia aj rekonstrukcie? To mal byt akoze argument? ;) + To ze si niekto nazve web stranku green building este neznamena, ze ta stranka bude o green architecture.

"burat stare a stavat nove green buildings vobec nie je ucinne" - nemas pravdu

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ani ja uz s tebou nedebatujem. proste si mi zase ukazal, ze s tebou sa to neda.

;)

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fakty su fakty, toto nie je politologia ;)

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sorry ale najprv sa pozri na tie tvoje "fakty" skopirovane z wikipedie ktorymi aj tak nic nevysvetlujes:

A sustainable building, or green building is an outcome of a design which focuses on increasing the efficiency of resource use — energy, water, and materials — while reducing building impacts on human health and the environment during the building's lifecycle, through better siting, design, construction, operation, maintenance, and removal.

kde mas v tomto prosim ta, ze by green building nemohol zahrnat aj upravu starych domov? a dalsi tvoj "zdroj"- tu mi to tiez nejak unika:

"When is a house ecological? Does the use of natural materials and solar cells on the roof make a building an example of "green" architecture? Perhaps even Antoni Gaudí and Frank Lloyd Wright designed "greener" buildings than most contemporary architects, whose low-energy houses scarcely differ outwardly from traditional ones.

James Wines puts up the various - and often irreconcilable - concepts of environmentally-friendly architecture for discussion, making a case for an architecture that not only focuses on technological solutions, but also tries to reconcile man and nature in its formal idiom. Among the examples of contemporary ecological architecture presented are works by Emilio Ambasz, Gustav Peichl, Arthur Quarmby, Jean Nouvel, Sim Van der Ryn, Jourda and Perraudin, Log ID, James Cutler, Stanley Saitowitz, François Roche, Nigel Coates and Michael Sorkin."

asi to potrebujem zvyraznit cervenou.

a ani ten tvoj treti citat z www.zelenaarchitektura.cz prestavby nevylucuje.

oproti tomu ja som ti dala zdroje na architektov, teda priamo na tych, co sa priamo venuju green buildingu a AJ prestavbam a ukazala som ti, ako k tomu pojmu pristupuju oni. a ty ma aj tak zhadzujes.

a na zaver vyjadrenie k tomu tvojmu "argumentu" k mojej veticke:

"burat stare a stavat nove green buildings vobec nie je ucinne" - nemas pravdu

je naozaj otazne, ci sa oplati z environmentalneho hladiska burat starsiu budovu- zober si mnozstvo energie pri jej demolacii, mnozstvo vzniknuteho odpadu, ktory je zvacsa nerecyklovatelny a mieru (docasneho) znecistenia prostredia napr. prachom. naozaj si si taky isty, ze nie je lepsie dat starym budovam novu formu?

inak toto je moj posledny koment k tejto teme a mam pocit ze asi aj k tvojim hocijakym dalsim, lebo ma neustale znovu a znovu presviedcas, ze s tebou je hocijako zmyslana diskusia nemozna ;)

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staci citat

outcome of a design

Perhaps even Antoni Gaudí and Frank Lloyd Wright designed "greener" buildings than most contemporary architects, whose low-energy houses scarcely differ outwardly from traditional ones

making a case for an architecture that not only focuses on technological solutions, but also tries to reconcile man and nature in its formal idiom

Heh, uz je to zrazu "otazne"? :) tvoje predosle vyjadrenie: vobec nie je ucinne

mnozstvo vzniknuteho odpadu, ktory je zvacsa nerecyklovatelny - hlupost

Ja s tebou koncim, lebo nevies citat, chapat a pises bludy :)