26.06.2004-6:52:52 :: Remember, remember, the velvet November


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silne slova
" nebudu v tvojich snoch cernoskovia pokial si na nich nespomenies",
Nazor ti brat nebudem ale skus si nieco o analyze snov vyhladat take archetypy, kolektivne nevedomie, Jung a spol. tvrdia nieco ine a maju to dost podlozene.

Ze ci je tento svet realnejsii ako snovy???
Prespime tretinu zivota, macky ktore trpeli dlhodobo snovou deprivaciou umreli. Neda sa zit bez toho ako to ti nazyvas "vnutornej reality " ani vonkajsej, TAK co je REalne???

Vytvaranie reality
POzorovany objekt sa meni pozorovanim. / institut aplikovanej fyziky Princeton /B. Dunne/
Quantova fyzika spaja vnutornu a vonkajsiu realitu do jedneho celku ak to tvrdia ludia co zato dostavaju nobelove ceny o com tu diskutujeme ???

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rigor ad "Pozorovany objekt sa meni pozorovanim." - viem presne o akom experimente hovoris, vedel som o nom pred dlhymi rokmi, ale to je proste napoly filozoficke vysvetlenie velmi specialneho "useku reality". Pokusat sa to aplikovat na lucidne snenie by predpokladalo MINIMLANE ze vedomie ma kvantovy charakter, co nemozeme vediet.
Je to proste akoby si chcel zdoraznovat pri chodzi teoriu relativity. Teoria relativity plati, ale pri chodzi su rozhodujuce, podstatne a postacujuce pre vysvetlenie uplne ine faktory.

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JA som myslel vyskum ROKYTU, REINISA, LIBETA , a LIBERMANA / fakt vies ze som hovoril o nich/ ;D

KVANTOVA POVAHA VEDOMIA / je spominany v mojej praci je tu linknuta ak si das moje prispevky

Rokyta a REinis pracuju akademii vied myslim

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no ked uz si tu tu temu nacal tak teda ano, podla najnovsich vyskumov (Monroeovho inštitútu)ma vedomie naozaj kvantovy charakter:

VLASTNOSTI VEDOMIA - vyskum monroeovho inštitutu

Focused consciousness implies something different from ordinary consciousness. Focused, coherent states of consciousness appear to provide clarity to knowing, an organizing influence on perceived reality. Ordinary consciousness encourages entropy of thought and frenetic, dissonant perceptions of reality. Since consciousness is not limited to the often-narrow confines of the physical body, has field-like properties, and is not limited to the concepts of time and space, these principles apply on both an individual and worldwide basis, possibly across all time and space.

The following is an excerpt from the article Moving Mind, Moving Matter
by Dean Radin, Ph.D., Noetic Sciences Review, No. 46 - Summer 1998. ...aha ci vlastne tak najnovsie to zase neni ale aj tak dobry clanok a keby to neplatilo aj teraz tak by to z ich stranky urcite stiahli!

PROPERTIES OF CONSCIOUSNESS
Whatever else consciousness may be, let us suppose that it also has the following properties, derived from a combination of Western and Eastern philosophies:

The first property is that consciousness extends beyond the individual and has quantum field-like properties, in that it affects the probabilities of events.

Second, consciousness injects order into systems in proportion to the "strength" of consciousness present. This is a refinement of quantum physicist Erwin Schrodinger's observation about one of the most remarkable properties of life, namely, an "organisms astonishing gift . . . of 'drinking orderliness' from a suitable environment."

Third, the strength of consciousness in an individual fluctuates from moment to moment, and is regulated by focus of attention. Some states of consciousness have higher focus than others. We propose that ordinary awareness has a fairly low focus of attention compared to peak states, mystical states, and other nonordinary states.

Fourth, a group of individuals can be said to have "group consciousness." Group consciousness strengthens when the group's attention is focused on a common object or event, and this creates coherence among the group. If the group's attention is scattered, then the group's mental coherence is also scattered.

Fifth, when individuals in a group are all attending to different things, then the group consciousness and group mental coherence is effectively zero, producing what amounts to background noise. We assume that the maximum degree of group coherence is related in some complicated way to the total number of individuals present in the group, the strength of their common focus of attention, and other psychological, physiological, and environmental factors.

Sixth, physical systems of all kinds respond to a consciousness field by becoming more ordered. The stronger or more coherent a consciousness field, the more the order will be evident. Non-moving objects (like rocks) will respond to order induced by consciousness as well as moving ones (like people or tossed dice), but it is only in the more labile systems that we have the tools to readily detect these changes in order. In sum, when a group is actively focused on a common object, the "group mind" momentarily has the "power to organize," as Carl Jung put it.

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"Whatever else consciousness may be, LET US SUPPOSE that it also has the following properties, derived from a combination of Western and Eastern philosophies: "

to nema s vedou absolutne nic spolocne :), to je proste par nazorov, ktore "predpokladajme" ze existuju. Nie su tam teorie, hypotezy, experimenty, dokazy, nie je tam nic. Naviac je to "mix filozfickych pristupov z celeho sveta". Ako nazor ok, ale aj tak prilis strucny, ktovie ci vobec rozumeju vsetkym slovam ktore pouzivaju.

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no hej mozno su to len teorie ciastocne zalozene na opisoch zazitkov ludi na hemi-syncu a ciastocne na opisoch z roznych svetovych filozofii ale kedze monroeov institut robi tieto vyskumy uz par rokov a opisy zazitkov ludi v silne zmenenom stave vedomia sa az naramne podobaju, je mozne z toho vyvodit urcite vseobecne platne zavery, ale stopercentny patent na pravdu nama nikto, to ani exaktna veda, zaujimalo by ma kolko teorii "v nej" je faktze spolahlivo dokazanych a kolko su len dohady

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taku statistiku asi nikde nenajdes, a preto nam "percento uspesnosti" dokazanych vedeckych teorii Vs nedokazanych nevedeckych poloteorii ostane nezname. Btw nemusi ist o to ci je pravda 100%, ale ci je postacujuca (popr. pre koho).