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https://cacm.acm.org/news/how-nasa-built-artemis-iis-fault-tolerant-computer/
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To ensure those wrong answers never reach the spacecraft’s thrusters, NASA moved beyond the triple redundancy of traditional systems. Orion utilizes two Vehicle Management Computers, each containing two Flight Control Modules, for a total of four FCMs. But the redundancy goes even deeper: each FCM consists of a self-checking pair of processors.

Effectively, eight CPUs run the flight software in parallel. The engineering philosophy hinges on a “fail-silent” design. The self-checking pairs ensure that if a CPU performs an erroneous calculation due to a radiation event, the error is detected immediately and the system responds.

“A faulty computer will fail silent, rather than transmit the ‘wrong answer,’” Uitenbroek explained. This approach simplifies the complex task of the triplex “voting” mechanism that compares results. Instead of comparing three answers to find a majority, the system uses a priority-ordered source selection algorithm among healthy channels that haven’t failed-silent. It picks the output from the first available FCM in the priority list; if that module has gone silent due to a fault, it moves to the second, third, or fourth.

This level of redundancy is specifically scaled for the rigors of deep space. NASA anticipates transient failures during the Artemis II mission’s transit through the high-radiation Van Allen Belts.

“We can lose three FCMs in 22 seconds and still ride through safely on the last FCM,” said Uitenbroek. A silenced FCM doesn’t become dead weight, however; the system is designed to reset, re-synchronize its state with the operating modules, and re-join the group mid-flight.
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toxygen
 toxygen      10.04.2026 - 16:01:24 [4K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
v clanku sa spomina apollo 11 palubny pocitac. par rokov dozadu bola o tom na CCC pekna prednaska:

tu je trochu menej technicka verzia:

inak su freely available rozne simulatory toho guidance pocitaca, ak by sa chcel niekto pohrat (aj bez instalacie, cislo len v web/js)

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maniac
 maniac      10.04.2026 - 16:40:22 [2K] , level: 2, UP   NEW
mne odpalilo dekel ked som cital ako ho opravili (workaroundli) na dialku , toto:

Voyager 1 Thruster/Memory Fix (2024–2025)

The Problem: Voyager 1, launched in 1977, stopped sending usable scientific data in November 2023 due to a corrupted memory chip in its flight data subsystem (FDS).

The Fix: Because the spacecraft is in interstellar space with nearly 50-year-old technology, NASA engineers could not physically reach it. Instead, they remotely sent new code to the spacecraft's computer, instructing it to bypass the corrupted memory section and re-enable functionality.
Significance: It was a "miracle save" done remotely, using 1970s technology over a distance that takes over 23 hours for a signal to travel one way.

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rooter
 rooter      10.04.2026 - 18:13:29 (modif: 10.04.2026 - 18:15:18), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
presne toto ma dostalo, a obrovsky respekt

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41517272

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toxygen
 toxygen      10.04.2026 - 16:56:24 [2K] , level: 3, UP   NEW
jj, zaujimave je, ze dnes uz nevyrabame space elektroniku, ktora by vydrzala tak dlho, ako tie 1st/2nd gen vesmirne misie. Vsetky spoje su mensie, rychlejsie a nachylnejsie na single-event upset (bity zmenene radiaciou). samozrejme, cim tensie, tym skor v nich prepali vesmirna radiacia dieru, cez ktoru uz ten prud nepotecie...

ak sa ti pacil ten trik s pamatou (je to relativne bezna vec u modernych space misii, ale navrhnut to v 1977 - to je iny level), mohol by ta zaujimat tento clanok: https://flownet.com/gat/jpl-lisp.html

konkretne:

Also in 1993 I used MCL to help generate a code patch for the Gallileo magnetometer. The magnetometer had an RCA1802 processor, 2k each of RAM and ROM, and was programmed in Forth using a development system that ran on a long-since-decommissioned Apple II. The instrument had developed a bad memory byte right in the middle of the code. The code needed to be patched to not use this bad byte. The magnetometer team had originally estimated that resurrecting the development environment and generating the code patch would take so long that they were not even going to attempt it. Using Lisp I wrote from scratch a Forth development environment for the instrument (including a simulator for the hardware) and used it to generate the patch. The whole project took just under 3 months of part-time work.

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EGA
 EGA      11.04.2026 - 09:11:25 [2K] , level: 4, UP   NEW
Pre mňa je neuveriteľné, že Voyager 1 & 2 sú vybavené 8-stopovým DTR, ktoré funguje aj po 50 rokoch.

WnDJg.jpg

How was magnetic tape decay prevented in Voyager 1?

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maniac
 maniac      10.04.2026 - 17:01:12 , level: 4, UP   NEW
tak o tom som nevedel, utrzok vyzera lakavo, idem citat, dik :)

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ventYl
 ventYl      10.04.2026 - 11:10:14 [5K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
To je inac lekcia zo Space Shuttla, kde mali tripple redundancy a vozili v skrini este jeden "zalozny" pocitac, ktory slo hotswapnut.

Az sa stalo, ze ho aj pouzit museli. Potom vozili dva, neviem ci neskor nie aj tri. Pricom zakladny system sa rozsiril na four-way redundancy.

Lock-stepping, kde dva procesory pocitaju to iste je uplne bezny fail-safe mod. Robia to aj auta vo fakt kritickych systemoch ako ESP a podobne.

Shitty life is like radiation. You can sustain it for long time if daily doses are small.

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toxygen
 toxygen      10.04.2026 - 15:50:30 [1K] , level: 2, UP   NEW
moj prvy dojem je, ze to ovela viac pripomina moderne palubne navigacne systemy v civilnom letectve nez space shuttle.

fail-silent self-checking pair je z FADEC/EEC Boeing 787
arinc 653 je z obdobia pred 787, ale jeho prva kompletna implementacia v IMA bola prave tam
priority based je celkovo princip integrovania z IRS/INS, GNSS/GPS, radio majakov... proste fuzia senzorov podla priority

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maniac
 maniac      11.04.2026 - 08:46:49 (modif: 11.04.2026 - 08:48:29) [8K] , level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
nieco na tom bude.. :)

download

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dudel
 dudel      10.04.2026 - 10:08:41 [2K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
skoro jak kybca :-D