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EU leaders agreed to open accession talks with Ukraine at a charged summit on Thursday, after Hungary’s prime minister relented in his opposition to the historic step for the war-torn country.

The decision marks a major milestone on Kyiv’s determined path to join the union once the conflict with Russia’s war is over, and represents an endorsement by Brussels of the country’s western trajectory.

It is part of the EU’s proposed support package for Ukraine being discussed at the leaders’ summit in Brussels, alongside a four-year, €50bn fund from the bloc’s shared budget which has yet to be agreed.

The EU’s resolve to continue supporting Ukraine has become critical given the failure by the US Congress’s to agree on a $60bn package for Kyiv proposed by the White House.

“The European Council has decided to open accession negotiations with Ukraine and Moldova,” said Charles Michel, president of the European Council, who chairs the summit. “A clear signal of hope for their people and for our continent.”

He added to reporters: “It was important that no member states opposed this decision”.

“Proud that we have lived up to our promises,” said Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, who called it “a strategic decision.”

The decision came after Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán chose to leave the room during the debate to allow agreement, according to people briefed on the talks.

“Hungary’s position is clear,” Orbán said on Facebook. “Ukraine is ill prepared . . . It is a completely senseless, irrational and incorrect decision to start negotiations with Ukraine under these circumstances.”

But, he said: “Hungary decided that if the 26 decide to do so, they should go their own way. Hungary does not want to share in this bad decision, and therefore Hungary has stayed away from the decision today.”
https://www.ft.com/content/deb40df7-7832-4fee-a822-655ab0288c05




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ch
 ch      17.12.2023 - 16:51:48 (modif: 17.12.2023 - 16:52:55) [2K] , level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
https://i.imgur.com/gw10nZA.mp4

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teflon
 teflon      15.12.2023 - 18:09:50 , level: 1, UP   NEW
co je cielom tohto politickeho gesta? nebude jedinym dosledkom mobilizacia whateverexit neandertalov v clenskych krajinach? shengen aj tak nedostanu, alebo sa mylim?

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Brahmin
 Brahmin      17.12.2023 - 13:27:55 [4K] , level: 2, UP   NEW
Ja osobne si nemyslím že Ukrajina je čo i len blízko splnenia podmienok vstup a ešte desaťročia nebude. Viac ako Ruskej piatej kolóny sa bojím Tureckého scénáru kedy bude donekonečna odsúvané lebo z jednej strany (EU) ide len o gesto a na druhej strane populácia chce členstvo ale nemá vôľu pretrpieť reformy a k moci sa dostane dajaký Aleksandr Erdoganenko čo síce formálne prístupové rozhovory nikdy nezruší, ale využije EU ako obetného baránka na všetky interné problémy ("aha snažíme sa ale oni nás nechcú", "máte sa zle lebo pravidlá Bruselu" etc.).

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fito
 fito      15.12.2023 - 14:50:29 , level: 1, UP   NEW
pojebany orban

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bugy
 bugy      17.12.2023 - 20:12:36 , level: 2, UP   NEW
s cim z "Ukraine is ill prepared . . . It is a completely senseless, irrational and incorrect decision to start negotiations with Ukraine under these circumstances" nesuhlasis?

Podnety prijímame na adrese toluen@minv.sk

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fito
 fito      19.12.2023 - 09:10:03 , level: 3, UP   NEW
pre mna to ma viac rovin,
jedna je anekdoticka, t.j. ze to hovori zrovna orban, ktory demontuje demokraticke a kontrolne mechanizmy vlastneho statu a celi za to od eu sankciam (a primitivny barter bude asi aj jeden z dovodov, preco robi, co robi) a nedokaze zabezpecit svoju cast schengenu. ked fico onehda tvrdil, ze ukrajina je najskorumpovanejsi stat na svete, smial som sa na tom (ze zrovna on) a teraz vidim, ze to vobec nema z vlastnej hlavy.

druha sa tyka medzinarodnej politiky a postavenia eu v nej. pre mna toto nie je nejaka epizodka, ale historicky okamih, ked sa rozhoduje o buducom usporiadani europy a ciastocne aj sveta. skor alebo neskor rusko musi prehrat a ukrajina sa musi stat clenom eu a bola by chyba pripustat akykolvek iny vysledok. vynimocna doba vyzaduje vynimocne ciny a ak ma urychlene prijatie ukrajiny tomuto vysledku napomoct, podme do toho. pokial eu tuto svoju historicku ulohu nezvladne, nikdy uz vyznamnym hracom na medzinarodnom poli a individualne zaujmy jednotlivych clenov postupne prevazia spolocne velke ciele.

tretia je psydchologicka a ide o to, ze dovodom ruskej agresie je hlavne vola obcanov ukrajiny sa z ruskeho vplyvu vymanit a pridat sa k zapadnym strukturam. tato dlhodoba snaha vyeskalovala do toho, co tam je teraz a oni denno denne na bojisku ukazuju, ze to myslia fakt vazne. ak bude napriek tomu eu byrokraticky vahat, je mozne, ze to podlomi moralku ukrajincov a znova prevazia pro ruske a dokonca proti-eu sentimenty. toto nesmieme dopustit, pokial to myslime vazne my. ked vstupovali do eu krajiny V4, mali stastie, ze prave v tom case malo rusko dost vlastnych problemov, lebo inak by to vobec nemuselo ist tak hladko.

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dobso
 dobso      16.12.2023 - 22:40:48 , level: 2, UP   NEW
ja by som sa chcel spytat, nebolo by na case uz to Madarsko pre vystrahu proste vykopnut z EU? Lebo ja neviem ci pravo veta ma byt zrusene, ale vydieranie a vypalnictvo urcite ma byt potrestane. V com je problem? Ja chapem ze to maju zlozite v pripade Turecko/NATO, ale v com je problem poslat dokelu Madarsko z EU? Ved nech si idu vlastnou cestou, no problem.

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fito
 fito      17.12.2023 - 20:04:05 (modif: 17.12.2023 - 20:05:40), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
urcite to tak vsetci citia, akurat v diplomacii sa treba oprostit od emocii a dohodnut sa aj s curakom, pokial je schopny dohodu dodrzat. tvoj aktualny protivnik moze byt zajtra tvoj najlepsi spojenec.
pre eu je asi v konecnom dosledku lepsie, pokial je madarsko jej sucastou, ako by malo ist nejakou vlastnou "alternativnou" cestou - a nie je si ani tazke predstavit, ako by asi vyzerala. orban to ofc. vie a spolieha na to.

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dobso
 dobso      17.12.2023 - 20:30:41 [1K] , level: 4, UP   NEW
Ja teda neviem ale niekedy principialnost prinasa poucenie pre dalsich. Ale fakt je ze o tom prd viem:)

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fito
 fito      18.12.2023 - 14:21:23 [1K] , level: 5, UP   NEW
no sak to aj ja, ale zato si rad zamudrujem :D

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just_minding_my_business
 just_minding_my_business      15.12.2023 - 14:57:40 (modif: 15.12.2023 - 14:57:58), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
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