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Na Coursera bude od 1. sept. prebiehať neplatený kurz o cyklistike v kontextne udržateľnej mobility https://www.facebook.com/urbancyclinginstitute/posts/1174571656256297

Tie videá čo sú tam sú super, dám aj sem. Porovnanie dvoch základných škôl v USA v Holandsku




V Holandsku 2/3 detí mladších ako 12 rokov dochádza do školy peši alebo na bicykli
https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/arriving-at-school-by-bicycle/?fbclid=IwAR0-jeCnEuFpYJRm7plSG50TUGsplm__lH4RXiJD7ulssSBXyPZXaw1zwtU




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pht
 pht      28.08.2020 - 01:06:30 , level: 1, UP   NEW
mozno nejak suvisi s kurzom, nasiel som nahodou vcera https://www.routledge.com/Bicycle-Utopias-Imagining-Fast-and-Slow-Cycling-Futures/Popan/p/book/9780367582241

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HYPE HOPE
 HYPE HOPE      27.08.2020 - 19:53:53 , level: 1, UP   NEW
popici, enrolled

všetci zomrieme <3

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 08:52:37 , level: 1, UP   NEW
k tomu prvemu videu si treba precitat popis. je to trosku ina situacia ako v centre 150-tisicoveho mesta v uz aj tak silno bicyklovo zatazenom holandsku.

"I decided that I needed to make a description on what is happening here. There are too many opinions below that are lost on what they think they see here. This was a test by the NCDOT to try and alleviate traffic backing up from the school into the highway. They wanted to utilize the extra parking area for the drop off line and not let kids get dropped off anymore. This plan did not work and was reverted back to the plan that had been in place for years. The drop off line goes around the parking area and the parking spots are also used to walk your child in. The school does provide buses, but some of these buses come by some areas at 6am to pick up kids. Most parents both work and they drop their child off on the way to work. There are over 700 kids at this school. Riding on a bike or walking is not an option because this school has kids up to 15 miles away. This is an area that is very rural and there is no way the state would ever install hundreds of miles of sidewalks that don't even lead to a town. So to all the negative comments, everywhere is not like where you live. Things are different for a reason. This isn't New York or Chicago."

casto mam pocit, ze v usa na ludi proste seru. prvostupnova skola so zbernym radiusom 15 mil bez akejkolvek infrastruktury pre chodcov, cyklistov, bez verejnej dopravy a s nedostatocnym poctom skolskych autobusov. by ma jeblo.

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smok
 smok      27.08.2020 - 11:25:20 (modif: 27.08.2020 - 11:27:58), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Inak je mozne ze toto je presne skola mojho kamarata (pri Charlotte) - rozpraval mi presne o tomto, ze rano obrovske parkovisko, auta pristanu, otvoria dvere, ucitelia odchytia deti a ide sa.

Je to tak, proste prachy by mali byt prioritizovane na tie busy, bajky su riesenie tak do 3-5 mil pre vacsie deti, dochadzanie peso tak do 1-2 mil max.

busy su jasne riesenie, len samozrejme treba vstavat skor, ale ma to imho proste pozitivne socialne dosledky - deti su samostatnejsie, viac v kolektive. A teda aj samotne ranne vstavanie je imho dobry zvyk do zivota.

no ale nechcel by som byt ten bus driver ;)

ako robo hovori - suburbia. mozno mensie skoly v danych suburboch do tych 12 rokov? a stredoskolaci uz v pohode na busy.

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ddd
 ddd      27.08.2020 - 12:51:08 , level: 3, UP   NEW
neviem neviem s tym rannym vstavanim, hovoria ludia ze to je celkom problem a pre decka aj z vyvojoveho hladiska (vid. napr. vzdy ked sa hovori o posune zaciatku skoly na deviatu)

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 11:50:58 , level: 3, UP   NEW
co si. stredoskolaci maju vlastne fara.

skore ranne vstavanie ok, ale byt ready o 6:00 ked sa skola zacina o 8mej je trosku na facku.

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smok
 smok      27.08.2020 - 11:58:49 , level: 4, UP   NEW
preto viac $$ = viac busov

akoze asi si nežil v malych dedinkach na SK - dochadzanie do 2. stupna skol bolo podobne

imho vstavat o 6.30 je ok, 5.30 neni ok ;))

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visby
 visby      27.08.2020 - 13:14:42 , level: 5, UP   NEW
"but some of these buses come by some areas at 6am to pick up kids"

cize skor 5:15...

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smok
 smok      27.08.2020 - 13:15:33 (modif: 27.08.2020 - 13:16:16), level: 6, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ked ti dojde bus na konec ulice tak urcite 5.30 je dost (mam deti 7 a 10) - zoptimalizujes to riadne :)

ale urcite je to bolest

okrem toho, bolo by fajn dat nejake statistiky, mozno 80% dojde bus o 7, tych 20% moze chodit aj autom, je to velky win

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      27.08.2020 - 09:17:22 (modif: 27.08.2020 - 09:17:46) [1K] , level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Imho ten popis tomu az tak nepridava ako pohlad na satelitnu mapu okolia. Hento nie je vidiek, to je obrovska suburbia, kde su vzdialenosti definovane tym ze kazdy ma obrovsky dom s kilometrovym travnikom a vsade chodi autom (najprv boli auta, potom vzniklo toto, nie naopak). Je to 40km od ~800 tisicoveho mesta Charlotte (a 12km od centra Monroe, co je 35-tisicove mesto).

Cize negativne komentare su na mieste.

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 11:24:21 , level: 3, UP   NEW
mozno 40 km od mesta nie je vidiek v usa ale vsade inde to vidiek je. ak mas na mysli ze to nie je samota v strede gods country tak ok.

podla toho ake negativne komentare. ak su typu ze rodicia su kokoti, lebo vozia deti do najblizsej skoly autami, tak na mieste nie su. to je ako v blave, kup si domcek na vidieku, sak to mas len 10 km od ba a potom stravis svoj mlady zivot v zapchach. otazka je, ako sa z toho zacarovaneho kruhu vymanit?

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mirex
 mirex      27.08.2020 - 21:19:33 , level: 4, UP   NEW
Ako sa z toho vymanit? Obetovat nieco (velky lacny pozemok v zapadakove) za nieco ine (drahsie mensie byvanie v dedinke alebo meste kde mas skolu aj obchody). Rovnake ako to popisujes v okoli blavy.

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 21:37:21 , level: 5, UP   NEW
Ale ako mozes mat deti ked nemas vlastny dom? Ved nebudu mat kazdy vlastnu izbu!!!1!!1!

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mirex
 mirex      27.08.2020 - 22:32:44 , level: 6, UP   NEW
Kupis mensi travnik zato vacsi byt !11!!

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      27.08.2020 - 11:38:46 , level: 4, UP   NEW
Jasne, nemyslim negativne komentare na konanie ludi ktori v tom systeme ziju.
Ale k tomu vidieku este - je vidiek a vidiek, vidiek mozu byt aj dediny kde ludia byvaju blizko k sebe, aj ked daleko od inej dediny. Hento je nieco ine, to su uz vzdialenostami medzi domami skor lazy, ale nie preto ze by potrebovali policka a pasienky blizko k domom, ale preto ze mozu. Cize suburbia, nie vidiek.

Ako sa vymanit, nuz aj v Holandsku bol v 60s-80s (ci kedy) silny kult automobilizmu, a dnes uz taky silny nie je, dokazali to zmenit, takze asi tak nejak.

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 11:48:01 , level: 5, UP   NEW
hej, ja vidim hlavnu pricinu v planovani vystavby. taktiez by skola nemusela byt pre 700 deti, co je obrovska zakladna skola, ale 2-3 mensie a tym padom blizsie.

jo, je to dlha cesta, zmena planovania, zmena myslenia, zmena zivotnych narokov.

inak, zo srandy som si pozrel par aut co dosli na koniec zapchy, kolko im to trvalo kym vyhodili deti. je to okolo 15 min. vyzera to strasne z vtacej perspektivy, ale az taka casova zataz to neni. tolko cakam barkedy v skolke na syna, kym sa mamicky predo mnou vykecavaju s ucitelkou :)

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      27.08.2020 - 11:57:44 [1K] , level: 6, UP   NEW
Este dodam ze podla toho co som cital sa v US casto oplati viac postavit novu 'stvrt' ako investovat do oprav/upgradov existujucej (+ na rozdiel od europy maju na to aj miesto).

Cize casto vznikne 'stvrt' (s vlastnou samospravou, infra, vyber dani etc), za 30 rokov sa vybyva, treba opravovat cesty a rozvody, investovat do skol atd, cize treba zvysit dane. Ti co si to mozu dovolit sa radsej prestahuju do novej 'stvrte' ktora ma nizke dane. V starej je stale malo penazi, takze sa neinvestuje, a v novej je tiez malo penazi, lebo su nizke dane. A tak dalej.

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losmonos
 losmonos      27.08.2020 - 11:59:02 , level: 7, UP   NEW
wow, fasa model

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bR4n0
 bR4n0      27.08.2020 - 06:56:01 , level: 1, UP   NEW
bezpochyb je holandsky pristup lepsi, ale osobne by ma zaujimalo pri takomto porovnani, kde sa dane skoly nachadzaju. Ta v USA vyzera, ze je na dakom odlahlom mieste, zatial co ta v Holandsku v centre mesta...

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Best boy
 Best boy      27.08.2020 - 08:01:07 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Dobrý postreh, to druhé je nejaká suburbia alebo vidiek, ani neviem určiť čo to je. Na druhej strane vidno ne/udržateľnosť tohto typu sídelného plánovania + neexistujúcej cykloinfraštruktúry v okolí a verejnej dopravy. Ktorá by toto hádam bez problémov dokázala obslúžiť.

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One Man Bukkake Assault
 One Man Bukkake Assault      27.08.2020 - 08:43:28 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Pod videom:
I decided that I needed to make a description on what is happening here. There are too many opinions below that are lost on what they think they see here. This was a test by the NCDOT to try and alleviate traffic backing up from the school into the highway. They wanted to utilize the extra parking area for the drop off line and not let kids get dropped off anymore. This plan did not work and was reverted back to the plan that had been in place for years. The drop off line goes around the parking area and the parking spots are also used to walk your child in. The school does provide buses, but some of these buses come by some areas at 6am to pick up kids. Most parents both work and they drop their child off on the way to work. There are over 700 kids at this school. Riding on a bike or walking is not an option because this school has kids up to 15 miles away. This is an area that is very rural and there is no way the state would ever install hundreds of miles of sidewalks that don't even lead to a town. So to all the negative comments, everywhere is not like where you live. Things are different for a reason. This isn't New York or Chicago

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Best boy
 Best boy      27.08.2020 - 09:20:52 (modif: 27.08.2020 - 09:22:45), level: 4, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Test - okej. I keď nevieme koľko z akého rádiusu tam chodí, ale to je jedno. Možno len rozmýšľam nad tým argumentom nižšie, že do akej miery to determinuje sídelná štruktúra, ale pochybujem, že to nie je do veľkej miery aj mentalitou. Kedže aj v rurálnych oblastiach v NL je viac bajkov na sq ml ako v NC za rovnakých podmienok.

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One Man Bukkake Assault
 One Man Bukkake Assault      27.08.2020 - 11:12:06 , level: 5, UP   NEW
Pisu tam, ze 15 mil. Je jasne, ze v meste je to uplna chujovina. Ine je, ked byvas v dedine, kde nie je skola, dochadzas do prace a decko beries so sebou. A ano, aj mentalitou.