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Adding these extra sources of uncertainty, reasonable estimates for the case fatality ratio in the general U.S. population vary from 0.05% to 1%.

STAT Reports: STAT’s guide to interpreting clinical trial results
That huge range markedly affects how severe the pandemic is and what should be done. A population-wide case fatality rate of 0.05% is lower than seasonal influenza. If that is the true rate, locking down the world with potentially tremendous social and financial consequences may be totally irrational. It’s like an elephant being attacked by a house cat. Frustrated and trying to avoid the cat, the elephant accidentally jumps off a cliff and dies.

Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. In fact, such “mild” coronaviruses infect tens of millions of people every year, and account for 3% to 11% of those hospitalized in the U.S. with lower respiratory infections each winter
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/




  • 000001010833380908837211087030870873219808732240
    ddd 28.03.2020 - 23:44:31 (modif: 28.03.2020 - 23:52:10) level: 1 UP New Content changed
    s dovolenim, navtiram sa pod teba - uz par dni nad tym rozmyslam a vobec nemam uspokojive odpovede, tak snad niekto pomoze.

    myslim si, ze cokolvek blizko tej ich spodnej hranici (alebo vobec oficialnemu cislu 0.2% pre chripku), je velmi nepravdepodobne. vychadzam z tohto:

    Fa4ZSWv.png

    (publikovane 25jan, cize za vacsinu/vacsiu cast chripkovej sezony)

    pre porovnanie, covid-19 umrtia za vcerajsok su pre uk 260, cize vyrazne viac ako za chripku pre roky 2013 - 2017 dokopy - teda aspon pre cisla pre chripku vykazovane podobnou metodikou, akou su teraz vykazovane cisla pre covid.

    Problem je, ze ta 0.2% umrtnost pre chripku nie je pocitana z cisel ako v grafe. V clanku, ktory linkujes, je "22,000 to 55,000 flu deaths" v us tento rok - co zodpoveda tym ~ 0.2% umrtnosti - trochu velky rozdiel oproti tym 300 umrtiam za 5 rokov dokopy v styri-krat mensom uk, nie? Cize vela sa rozobera, v tomto clanku aj inych, aky je rozptyl v datach pre covid, ale o datach pre chripku nic.

    Podobny pohlad ma toto:
    https://straightstatistics.fullfact.org/article/flu-deaths-triumph-statistics-not-virology
    a je to stare, ale aspon nikto nemoze autorov obvinit ze su biased pri covid-e :)

    Cize porovnavanie cisel ziskanych podobnou metodikou by asi viedlo k niecomu inemu - to bolo tusim tych 4x viac umrti v talianskom meste, neviem teraz najst link.

    tl;dr zhrniaky metodiky pre 0.2% pre flu potesia.
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    blurec 28.03.2020 - 23:35:47 level: 1 UP New
    aged like milk
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    evad 28.03.2020 - 23:16:13 level: 1 UP [1K] New
    march 17 2020
  • 000001010833380908837211087030870873219808732215
    svmn 28.03.2020 - 22:54:36 level: 1 UP [1K] New
    a oni odkial maju cisla, ze vedia povedat ako to naozaj je? nikto nevie, co sa realne deje, preto ta panika.. nikto nevie, aky to u neho bude mat priebeh a mnozia sa stavy o trvalych nasledkoch. preto ta panika. nikto sa nechce nakazit teraz, lebo je predpoklad, ze o tyzden sa k zdravotnej starostlivosti nedostane vobec. logicky. pohlad do nemocnic najviac postihnutych statov by snad mohol stacit. ci potrebujeme aj na to vedecku analyzu, ze ako nas nas vlastny mozog klame a oci vidia len to najhorsie?
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