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Z viac nez 700 nakazenych bola skoro !!polovica!! asymptomaticka.
Takze s tymto testovanim co tu predvadzame posledne tyzdne by som povedal, ze si koledujeme o riadny pruser.

Pikoska: Covid vydrzal na Princess cruise 17 dni po tom ako ju ludia opustili.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-coronavirus-survived-in-princess-cruise-cabins-up-to-17-days-after-passengers-left.html

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https://mobile.twitter.com/aetiology/status/1242254105155973122

Say it with me: *viral RNA doesn't necessarily mean live virus was present.* Now you're going to see "coronavirus can live on surfaces for 17 days!" over and over, but we don't know that based on this study and for those using live virus, it's much shorter. /7

( Excuse the ignorance, but what does "live virus" mean and what does it contrast with? The explainers I've seen on viruses all mention that viruses are not alive.

It means capable of replication. Once they're dried out after being on a surface for a period of time, they may no longer be able to grow inside cells, even if their genetic material (RNA or DNA) can still be detected, as in this study.)

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ved to uz zverejnili davno v tom Talianskom mestecku kde otestovali vsetkych ~3000 obyvatelov, tiez 50% asymptomaticka

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not pikoska. jeho rna stopy tam nasli. nie virus samotny. je to na konci clanku doplnene. aj ked napisali, ze nenasli "living virus" ale asi tym chceli povedat, ze uz nebol funkcny, alebo take nieco :)

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cize virus bol do ich tiel nejak preneseny, ale ich imuntny system nad nim zvitazil a teda neprepukla nemoc, stopy virusu ale v tele su?

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nie v tele

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tu je paper o tom, ze vela z asymptomatickych ten virus ani nemalo. aj ked neviem ci sa nejedna o rozne testy.
Potential false-positive rate among the 'asymptomatic infected individuals' in close contacts of COVID-19 patients]

to "len" hovori, ze reportovanych asymptomatickych s sars-cov2 je menej ako sa uvadza. co je blbe kedze sa ma nakazit 80% populacie. sanca, ze nakaza bude mat asymtomaticky priebeh je teda nizsia ako sa predpokladalo.

horsie by bolo vysoke percento false-negatives. na screening v pohode.

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1. active nucleic acid test nie je PCR? nikde nepisu ako sa to testovalo na princess
2. moar https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/fik54b/false_positives_among_asymptomatic/

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potential, might be
takže by som to nevydával za hotovú vec :)

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ndpc

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Moje dekontaminacne protokoly boli prave zruinovane.

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preco? ako to z toho vypliva? ved najlepsie je predpokladat ze to je vsade.

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no napr. nechat FFP ruska 7-9 dni lezat a potom ich moct znovu pouzit
alebo ked kurier donesie donasku, nechat veci odlezat 3 dni a su safe

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ja ruska uz tiez nechavam odstat, 3-4 dni na balkone na slnku by mali stacit.

kurierske veci rovno vyberieme z vonkajsej krabice a podla terminu odoslania riesime (vacsinou je to aj tak 3-4 dni). na kartone ten vir nevydrzi az tak dlho

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to s tym odstatim balikov uz niekto spominal, nechapem aky to ma prakticky zmysel oproti prestriekaniu kontaktnych ploch savom/alkoholom/mydlovou vodou.

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ze to Savo / Alkohol sa neda zohnat? :) + nie vsetko mozes nastriekat (oblecenie, zelenina, ovocie, etc.)

Ano, co sa da mydlom umyvam a Sanytoly este nejake su, ale treba hladat postupy na dalsie dni, lepsie to tak skoro nebude.

TIP: Parne cistice na podlahu / povrchy pomozu usetrit dezinfekciu

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na zeleninu peroxid vodíka 3 perc 1:1

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Savo sa da este kupit v metre...

my mame aj parak na podlahy, je to super vec aj ked nie je akurat covid. umyjes tym fakt masaker;-)