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vyzera to tak, ze ibuprofen je no go
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600(20)30116-8&utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&fbclid=IwAR3cBRJ_r-Cjm1RkZ92-pdvHOsCGqGZBvaFmrTQkIdcF4mtHLex9b60HwEE

edit

mam to z jednej biohackingovej fb skupiny. zatial je to len anecdotal evidence.

edit2 fake news

Ibuprofen makes corona cases worse.

The university clinic in Vienna is now advising their patients to not take any ibuprofen as all the worst cases took it, and early lab results show it's fueling the virus.

Tell this to everyone you can think of, they can't publicly advise in a written statement, since they fear pharma lawsuits.

EDIT:
French Health minister also shared this info, and he added cortisone to the list.




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zayo
 zayo      14.03.2020 - 16:39:13 [1K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
ako to naozaj je? kopec nemeckých médii to označuje ako hoax
https://www.idowa.de/inhalt.fake-news-bei-whatsapp-ibuprofen-macht-nicht-anfaellig-fuer-coronavirus.a812b398-e4e6-45cf-9d91-10744539c4d8.html
https://www.rtl.de/cms/vorsicht-vor-fake-news-ibuprofen-macht-nicht-anfaellig-fuer-coronavirus-4504147.html

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Heaven and Hell
 Heaven and Hell      14.03.2020 - 16:54:16 , level: 2, UP   NEW
eh shit
ale ten clanok z The Lancet fake neni

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greggie
 greggie      14.03.2020 - 14:27:54 , level: 1, UP   NEW
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/wetenschap/-ontstekingsremmers-kunnen-infectie-van-coronavirus-verergeren~a7e25dc2/

holandsky, ale proste NEBRAT Ibuprofen, ale paracetamol, brufen moze priebeh zhorsit

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bbs
 bbs      14.03.2020 - 22:48:42 , level: 2, UP   NEW
https://www.pharmazeutische-zeitung.de/fake-news-zu-ibuprofen-und-covid-19/

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greggie
 greggie      15.03.2020 - 06:13:29 , level: 3, UP   NEW
takze minister zdravotnictva FR je tiez nejaky hochstapler?

k opacnemu nazoru je tu vzdy davana len UNI WIEN, nikto iny

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bbs
 bbs      15.03.2020 - 09:50:47 (modif: 15.03.2020 - 10:41:37), level: 4, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
nepoznam ho, ale dufam, ze je fundovanejsi nez ten nas :)
btw ak si dobre pamatam, tak uni wien sa voci tomu ohradila, lebo boli spajany/uvedeny ako zdroj (e:v tej nahravke co kolovala)

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      14.03.2020 - 14:36:21 (modif: 14.03.2020 - 14:52:21), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
paracetamol ma slabe protizapalove ucinky, acylpyrin je asi lepsi

edit: naproxen sodium (nalgesin) je na tom asi podobne ako ibuprofen

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andread
 andread      14.03.2020 - 14:11:18 , level: 1, UP   NEW
aj paralen v prve dni

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zdienka
 zdienka      14.03.2020 - 14:14:26 , level: 2, UP   NEW
si prosím preložiť do ľudskej reči prečo

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blurec
 blurec      14.03.2020 - 14:21:04 (modif: 14.03.2020 - 14:21:42), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
eli6: coronavirus vyuziva k napadaniu buniek urcity enzym. ibuprofen podporuje tvorbu toho enzymu a tym ulahcuje virusu napadanie buniek.

p.s.: povodny prispevok spomina ibuprofen a lieky na kontrolu vysokeho tlaku a cukrovky (ktore tiez zvysuju v tele tvorbu daneho enzymu). paralen sa tam nespomina.

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greggie
 greggie      14.03.2020 - 14:32:30 (modif: 14.03.2020 - 14:36:28), level: 4, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m810/rr-2

On the other hand, it could be shown in animal experiments that both the ACE-inhibitor lisinopril and the angiotensin-receptor blocker losartan can significantly increase mRNA expression of cardiac ACE2 (5-fold and 3-fold, respectively) [5]. Further, losartan also significantly increases cardiac ACE2 activity [5].


co teraz? tak zajtra si nezoberiem a pondelok volam lekarovi


inak fasa, ze keby som to tu necheckoval, tak o tom ani neviem

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ID 1085352
 ID 1085352      14.03.2020 - 15:32:24 , level: 5, UP   NEW
daj potom prosím vedieť čo ti povedal lekár.
mám v rodine 65 srdciara s bajpasom na srdci takže super kombo.
dik

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greggie
 greggie      14.03.2020 - 16:35:43 , level: 6, UP   NEW
teraz som si uvedomil, ze rano som si dal klasicky 20mg Lisinoprilu a na obed 400ku brufenu, kedze som mal 37.4 a brutalne ma bolela hlava

takze ahoj, mal som vas tu rad

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ID 1085352
 ID 1085352      14.03.2020 - 20:01:56 , level: 7, UP   NEW
Na fb koluje na stranke vedator hlaska ze je to hoax.. takze neviemnic

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greggie
 greggie      15.03.2020 - 06:15:03 (modif: 15.03.2020 - 06:16:52), level: 8, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ako som uz pisal, este to nie je overeny vedecky fakt, ale vedecka hypoteza ktora sa overuje to oficialne je
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8/fulltext

The Lancet je najuznavanejsi medicinsky casopis a ano je tam same "If this is to be confirmed...", cize ako pisem

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ID 1085352
 ID 1085352      15.03.2020 - 12:33:01 , level: 9, UP   NEW
ved ja som to nemyslela nejak utočne :)
budem to sledovať

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Mr. Darcy
 Mr. Darcy      14.03.2020 - 20:22:35 , level: 8, UP   NEW
mozes si to aj precitat, ked uz, bude jasnejsie
https://doi.org/10.1016/S2213-2600(20)30116-8

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greggie
 greggie      14.03.2020 - 14:30:53 , level: 4, UP   NEW
ups

beriem Lisinopril na vysoky tlak, mam prestat?

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andread
 andread      14.03.2020 - 14:20:36 (modif: 14.03.2020 - 14:23:08), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
tento pan o tom hovoril https://kyberia.sk/id/8723075 ze virus nema rad teplo
takze horucka [do 38.5] je obrannyschopnost

pri vyssej ako 38 samozrejme treba znizovat inak sa moze ohrozit nervove ustrojenstvo
e: kazdopadne aj pri mensich tazkositach neni dobre hned jest paralen kedze mlady a zdravy organizmus si nielen vie ale aj by si mal vytvarat protilatky... [ibalgin je oblbovak to na vacsinu veci je svinstvo ale kusnem si do prstov]