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podobne info sa objavuje aj Taliansko a Francuzsko, ze nejaky shift aj k vekovej kategorii 30 - 50 :( samozrejme tazko generalizovat ale na pohode to neprida

From the intensive care of Northern Italy the feeling is the same: there are not only elderly people with previous pathologies hospitalized in intensive care due to coronavirus but more and more often even younger patients, under fifty, need an important respiratory support. Luca Lorini , director of the Anesthesia and Resuscitation Unit 2 of the Papa Giovanni Hospital of Bergamo just two days ago, said it first: «The type of patient is changing, he is a little younger, he is 40 to 45 years old . People are coming who got sick six or seven days ago and treated themselves at home, but the conditions then became critical. " Here out of 80 resuscitation places, 30 are occupied by under 60 and they too do not always make it. Even at the San Paolo hospital in Milan in the last few days not only elderly people have been hospitalized. Three days ago a 42 year old was intubated and in a few hours three 50 year olds and a 48 year old arrived. Almost everyone was in excellent health. At the same time, two men aged 49 and 55 were discharged. In the San Raffaele and San Donato hospitals in Milan out of 42 intensive care places, 7 are occupied by under 50s. A patient is just over 18 years old. Younger sick people also arrive at San Matteo in Pavia, which has equipped 24 places in intensive care, including patient 1 from Codogno and a girl from 30. They recover, even if the disease puts them to the test.”

“Data from the Istituto Superiore di Sanità Among ICU patients, almost 12% are under 50 years old. The latest statistics provided by the Istituto Superiore di Sanità tell us that 12% of the total cases of positivity to coronavirus (1755) require hospitalization. Of these, 14% are hospitalized in intensive care (with a median age of 66 years). Nobody is under 18; 11.9% are between 19 and 50 years old; 51.2% between 51 and 70 years old; 36.9% are over 70. The average age of deceased and positive patients for Covid-19 is 80 years, about 15 years higher than the positive ones and women are decidedly less than men: 24.4%. So far, two patients under 40 have not made it, both with pre-existing diseases. Four people died between the ages of 40 and 49; between 50 and 50, 24. And mortality in the province of Bergamo is close to 9%. The case of Nembro, 12 thousand inhabitants, is emblematic. 120 people died last year, this year, 70 died in the last 12 days of coronavirus alone.”

the profile of people admitted to intensive care is changing. Just two or three days ago, the men and women who came to these services for respiratory distress were mainly frail, elderly and already sick people. Now, they are no longer the only ones. "It is no longer rare to see young people aged 30 or 40, without pathology," says Gilles Pialoux. This is the reality on the ground. The circle widens. "




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Ljubes
 Ljubes      15.03.2020 - 09:43:56 , level: 1, UP   NEW
souce?

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procrastinator
 procrastinator      15.03.2020 - 13:41:45 , level: 2, UP   NEW
orig source

english

le parisien translate

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imnot
 imnot      14.03.2020 - 13:36:41 , level: 1, UP   NEW
otazka potom je, ci by sme odzaciatku nemali zacat triagovat a liecit len mladsich/bez komorbidit

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6*
 6*      15.03.2020 - 01:52:27 , level: 2, UP   NEW
a na toto nie je dostatok shareovanych dat / informacii z postihnutych krajin po 5,832 umrtiach a 3 mesiacoch? neviem, len sa pytam.

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imnot
 imnot      15.03.2020 - 06:08:02 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Ide aj o to, ze kazda krajina ma ine moznosti a personalne a materialne zdroje

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acidmilk
 acidmilk      14.03.2020 - 12:56:25 [11K] , level: 1, UP   NEW
neni to ziaden shift, akurat najstarsi zomreli hned a tymto mladsim chvilu trvalo, nez sa priznaky rozvinuli do tejto kritickej podoby.
a nie je to ani nic nove, presne takto to bolo aj v cine, len cely svet mal hlavy postrkane v ritiach..

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procrastinator
 procrastinator      14.03.2020 - 13:35:52 , level: 2, UP   NEW
myslene posun k zavaznym pripadom s nutnou hospitalizaciou aj u mladsich (nedali to uz doma po dlhsej dobe) nie "shift" z virologickeho hladiska

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blurec
 blurec      14.03.2020 - 13:44:54 , level: 3, UP   NEW
myslim, ze acidmilk pochopil, ako to myslis a jeho reakcia je aj po dovysvetleni validna.