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Článok O rakovine a falošnej nádeji vyvolal neočakávané množstvo ohlasov, rozhodol som sa preto na niektoré z nich odpovedať v druhej časti.
http://www.ritomsky.sk/o-rakovine-a-falosnej-nadeji-2-cast-ohlasy-a-komentare/




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Tomáš, to sa vie
 Tomáš, to sa vie      28.08.2013 - 17:00:55 , level: 1, UP   NEW
ad intravenozny vit c a rakovina:


One thing is fairly clear from the data reported thus far, even Mark Levine’s data and his calls to “revisit” the question of vitamin C and cancer with an “open mind”: If high dose intravenous ascorbate has antitumor activity in humans, that activity is almost certainly quite modest at best, and to achieve even such modest antitumor activity definitely requires incredibly high doses of ascorbate. Once again, I point out that any other experimental drug requiring such high plasma concentrations and high doses to achieve such a modest antitumor effect would probably garner very little interest from anyone, even if it were a potentially patentable product of big pharma. It’s possible that high dose IV ascorbate might ultimately find its way into the armamentarium of science-based oncology, but it’s very unlikely ever to become a mainstay of treatment for any malignancy. It’s just too wimpy.

autor D. Gorski
cely clanok http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/high-dose-vitamin-c-and-cancer-has-linus-pauling-been-vindicated/

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ritomak
 ritomak      28.08.2013 - 21:30:02 (modif: 28.08.2013 - 21:42:34), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ak tomu dobre rozumiem clanok je z roku 2008 kedy sa riesilo hlavne peroralne podavanie vysokych davok vitaminu C. v poslednych rokoch si zastancovia tejto metody ficia najma na intravenoznom podavani, okolo ktoreho sa tocia aktualne nadeje vyskumnikov. zavery su zatial nejednoznacne, resp. vyskum prebieha.

pisal som si na tuto temu aj s profesorom Janom Kyselovicom (dekan na farmacii UK), ktory je nakloneny dalsiemu skumaniu a vklada do toho urcite nadeje. o.i. mi na margo mojich pochybnosti napisal:

"Zial trochu nesuhlasim, pretoze ako som uviedol dokazy pri aplikacii telu vlastnych latok v klinickych podmienkach, je jedna z najtazsich uloh farmakologie. Samozrejme, ked je znizena hladina vit. C je efekt preukazetelne lahsi. A ukazat, ze samotny vit.C je schopny liecit rakovinu sa dnes takmer neda (Eticka stranka sudie) a preto je v kombinaicii inej cytostatickej terapie dokazova rovina je este zlozitejsia.

takze pre tento typ dokazov a sucasne velmi prisne kriteria na Evidence base medicine treba rozisahle studie na preukazanie klinickje ucinnosti v onkologii.

Na druhej strane nie je to experimentalna terapia, pretoze indikacie na podporu imunity a regeneracie je klinicky preukazany a vit C je na tuto indikaciu registrovany tj aj pri liecbe rakoviny."

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Tomáš, to sa vie
 Tomáš, to sa vie      29.08.2013 - 09:51:25 , level: 3, UP   NEW
ten clanok je iv aplikacii a afaik situacia sa urcite zasadne nezmenila
ale na slovensku uz niektory lekari a centra iv vc ponukaju
jedna davka tusim 20 gramov stoji nieco cez dvadsat euri plus poplatok pre zdravotnika co ti to aplikuje. jedna davka sa dava na jeden den