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EDIT pre tych co si nepozru clanok> percentage of calories as protein
Fajny clanok imho
http://plantpoweredkitchen.com/plant-powered-kids-protein-sources-for-vegan-children/
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FANTAghiro
06.10.2012 - 11:34:47
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keby si napr rozhodime proteiny v paradajke na zlozenie aminokyselin a porovname s vajickom, zistime ze pre telo z hladiska bielkovin je zelenina slabota, ze to cislo nema ziadnu prakticku informacnu hodnotu, ale vo vitaminkoch je zeleninka top, ale pre organizmus je dolezite to molekul zlozenie a nie nejaky pocet percent
vseobecneho pojmu bielkovin(retaz roznych alebo rovnakych aminokyselin, ci uz esencial alebo neesencial)
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FANTAghiro
06.10.2012 - 11:34:16
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keby si napr rozhodime proteiny v paradajke na zlozenie aminokyselin a porovname s vajickom, zistime ze pre telo z hladiska bielkovin je zelenina slabota, ze to cislo nema ziadnu prakticku informacnu hodnotu, ale vo vitaminkoch je zeleninka top, ale pre organizmus je dolezite to molekul zlozenie a nie nejaky pocet percent
vseobecneho pojmu bielkovin(retaz roznych alebo rovnakych aminokyselin, ci uz esencial alebo neesencial)
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FANTAghiro
06.10.2012 - 11:22:05
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keby si napr rozhodime proteiny v paradajke na zlozenie aminokyselin a porovname s vajickom, zistime ze pre telo z hladiska bielkovin je zelenina slabota, ze to cisli nema ziadnu prakticku informacnu hodnotu, ale vo vitaminkoch je zeleninka top
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Thunder Perfect Mind
03.10.2012 - 10:34:44
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inak neviem ci casta konzumacia spenatu je dobra vec, som v tomto celkom skepticky
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benedict glasscock
03.10.2012 - 14:03:02
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vyhrady typu?
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Thunder Perfect Mind
03.10.2012 - 14:07:33
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Vela kyseliny stavelovej resp. jej soli (oxalaty). Jednoducho sa mi to nezda ako potravina vhodna na castu konzumaciu, je to iba moj nazor a nie je myslim nijak vedecky podporeny. Inak mam spenat rad.
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losmonos
05.10.2012 - 17:16:43
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kvoli oblickam alebo co je problem s kys. stavelovou?
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Thunder Perfect Mind
06.10.2012 - 02:27:30
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ano (opat, nie je to celkom racionalne, jednoducho mam pocit ze to nie je spravne)
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blurec
05.10.2012 - 17:51:24
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tak to vyzera (podla wiki)
Calcium oxalate is the most common component of kidney stones. Early investigators isolated oxalic acid from wood-sorrel (Oxalis). Its presence makes it dangerous to eat unripe carambola or monstera fruits. Members of the spinach family are high in oxalates, as is sorrel.[11] Rhubarb leaves contain about 0.5% oxalic acid and jack-in-the-pulpit (Arisaema triphyllum) contains calcium oxalate crystals. Bacteria produce oxalates from oxidation of carbohydrates.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalic_acid#Occurrence_in_foods_and_plants
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mono
03.10.2012 - 10:23:59
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Tomas, prosim ta skus si pod to VELKYMI pismenami napisat "percentage of calories as protein", pretoze takto to vyzera ako mega-über-bullshit :)
(bez toho popisu je to imho velmi zavadzajuca tabulka)
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tomas
03.10.2012 - 10:55:43
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ved si pozri clanok.
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mono
03.10.2012 - 11:03:57
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ja som si ho pozrel, napriek tomu ta tabulka u 99% populacie bude implikovat podiel proteinov na celkovej hmotnosti tej zeleniny. co nezodpoveda skutocnosti.
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tomas
03.10.2012 - 11:15:18
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Ako sorry ze 99 percent populacie ked napisem ze je fajny clanok tak bude tahat info len z obrazku.ale ok, dopisem, ach jaj....
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losmonos
05.10.2012 - 17:19:49
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akoze necerti sa, ten obrazok je presne tak urobeny aby evokoval ze zelenina ma viac proteinov ako maso.
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tomas
05.10.2012 - 17:39:03
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Ja sa necertim. Obrazok je zly ako ked to robi lama.co zjavne robila
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Tomáš, to sa vie
03.10.2012 - 13:12:18
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linkovat na China Study ako dokaz pre skodlivost zivocisnych proteinov je dost slaby argument
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tomas
03.10.2012 - 17:04:59
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Nepoznam tu studiu detailne. Vcom je snou problem? rad sa dozviem
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Tomáš, to sa vie
04.10.2012 - 09:42:24
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China Study je studia na zaklade zozbieranych data z ciny, desiatky parametrov hlavne ohladom stravovania. logicky vzniklo obrovske mnozstvo korelacii, niektore signifikantne
autori selektivne vyberaju tie korelacie, ktore im vyhovuju na podporu veganskeho biasu. dalsim problemom spajania zivocisneho proteinu s rakovinou je skratke cez cholesterol, premrstene zavery na zaklade experimentov s kazeinom na potkanoch, etc
toto je najznamejsia kritika
http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
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tomas
05.10.2012 - 18:06:21
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zaujimave, som nevedel.
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blurec
04.10.2012 - 11:20:15
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no ono je to najznamejsia kritika, ale zaroven tiez viac-menej jedina (poriadna), kde jedna zenska ktritizuje (meta?) studiu, ktora cerpa z mnohych peer-reviewed publikacii.
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Tomáš, to sa vie
04.10.2012 - 12:50:57
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afaik to nie je meta studia, len zozbierane data na zaklade dotaznikov
obrovske mnozstvo dat, ktore su k dispozicii a su zname ako China Study
zaroven Campbellova kniha s rovnakym nazvom vychadza z tychto dat + uvadza experimenty s kreatinom na potkanoch plus dalsie od Campbellovej skupiny
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03.10.2012 - 10:06:04
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toto je imho poriadny bullshit ako moze mat spenat 50% proteinov ???????
podla mojich info je to tak 2-3%
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popo
03.10.2012 - 10:13:03
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to malo byt urcite promile pri zelenine