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Jedna kamoska sa na tohtorocnom boome (skrze jednoho izraelskeho dealera s zevraj doooost velkym stosom banknotez) dostala do kontaktu s drug menom "changa", dost nerozvazne to hned u jazera na plazi skurila a potom si odzila za 15minut objektivneho casu a-ani-srnka-netusi-za-kolko-aeonov-subjektivneho-casu dost husty bad trip...

Nasledne googlenie a http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62469 odhali ze uvedena latka sa zda byt "smokable mix" MAOi a DMT:

One of the more interesting topics that came up at the 2008 Boom Festival was a "new substance" called changa (or xanga), which I had not heard of before. One British visitor described changa as a chunky brown plant-based smoking blend. He was unsure about its legality, but said it was sold "under the counter" for £20-30 ($27-40 USD) per gram in Camden headshops. He characterized it as being "opiate-like, with the teeniest creep of DMT-like effects", and said he had heard of people mixing DMT into it. He mentioned a particular quality of electricity that occurred in one's hands after smoking it, which he called "changa fingers". Later, in response to us scrawling "Got Changa?" on our booth's whiteboard, a fellow from Brighton showed us some. He said it combined DMT with a MAOI plant, which extended the DMT effect from 3-5 minutes to about 20 minutes. On viewing the changa, I noticed that it looked similar to a Banisteriopsis caapi-plus-DMT smoking blend I'd seen earlier this year in Basel. Energy Control ran TLC on a small sample, and it spotted positive for DMT. There were three other unidentified spots, one of which the EC worker speculated might be a harmala alkaloid due to its fluorescence (although without having reference standards on hand, he could not say for sure).

An Erowid contributor from Australia provided the following data: changa is largely produced in Australia, and blends vary in composition-they may contain several herbs at different concentrations, but most incorporate Banisteriopsis caapi (either leaves, or shredded stem-bark, or both) and DMT, which is usually extracted from Acacia obtusifolia. A couple of festival-goers brought out two different blends of changa for us to photograph.

Another Australian visiting the Erowid booth claimed to be the person who invented changa. He said it is generally 20% DMT by weight, sourced from Acacia obtusifolia or A. acuminata. This extract is deposited onto a smoking blend that usually contains 60% B. caapi, passion flower, mullein, and peppermint. The remaining 40% typically contains Calendula officinalis, Justicia pectoralis, Nymphaea nouchali var. caerulea (or another lily), and Turnera diffusa. He expressed that changa is best smoked from a bong, but that people commonly take 2-3 puffs from a medium-sized joint.

While these Australians were very knowledgeable, some changa dealers may not know what they are selling. For example, one buyer at Boom was told that changa is a legal blend of four herbs said to be in the "family of DMT and Salvia". In most countries, changa can't be considered legal, and none of its ingredients are in the Salvia family.

The composition of changa blends varies, but most incorporate Banisteriopsis caapi and DMT.
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z toho ako uvedena skusenost moju kamaratku rozhodila je zjavne ze DMT+MAOi combo nieje nieco co by sa malo brat na lahku vahu, a pritomnost fyzickeho sprievodcu sa zda byt nutna aby sa subjekt dostal z vyssich rovin bez traumy naspat...

nastastie bol Boom tak skvela zurka s tak skvelymi ludmi ze sa z toho kamoska relativne rychlo dostala, mozno aj vdaka tomu ze sa nebala o svojom badtripe otvorene hovorit a aspon tak svoj zazitok post hoc, a za pomoci okolitej ceskoslovenskej bandy, konfrontovat...




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 :={outKasted}      14.09.2012 - 13:09:45 , level: 1, UP   NEW
kamoske a ostatnym odporucam v ramci setu a settingu skor nieco taketo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EJLeYpGlP4
imho to skor pomoze, nez uskodi:)
osobne urcite skusim

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 :={outKasted}      01.09.2012 - 14:46:12 , level: 1, UP   NEW
heh, no moc konkretnosti som sa nedozvedel
ja som ako som uz pisal na rnbw stretol typka co to tiez na boome nalozil a nevedel si vynachvalit
akurat ze potom bol tusim nejak bez veci:)
no a kedze sa to pred par dnami dostalo aj ku mne, mozno podam kratky report
ale na kybcu neviem neviem.)
mozno len takych tych par o nicom slov, ze husty bad trip:)
ale inak s tym maoi co som cital, tak asi tam moc nie su, lebo inak by to predsa ficalo dlhsie imho

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cv::be
 cv::be      31.08.2012 - 23:01:00 , level: 1, UP   NEW
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome
imho..

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Weaponized Cringe
 Weaponized Cringe      01.09.2012 - 05:03:13 , level: 2, UP   NEW
cisto z mixu DMT + maoi? imho blbost.
ci mas podozrenie, ze to mixovala este s niecim dalsim?

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 :={outKasted}      14.10.2012 - 13:48:17 , level: 3, UP   NEW
inac v tej zmesi moze byt aj durman atd. tusim
ma to viac variacii

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 :={outKasted}      01.09.2012 - 17:20:10 , level: 3, UP   NEW
no typek co vravel ze super vec
to este s dacim kombinoval, ale zabudol som s cim:)

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Weaponized Cringe
 Weaponized Cringe      31.08.2012 - 19:05:24 (modif: 31.08.2012 - 19:19:38) [3K] , level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ja by som bol beware skor toho "dost nerozvazne" nez toho mixu samotneho...

(a o pojme 'bad trip' by sa dalo tiez dlho polemizovat / imho cely 'bad trip' je dost pochybny pojem. ked ludia piju ayahuascu tak to tiez nebyva zrovna prijemny trip...o iboge nehovoriac)

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 :={outKasted}      01.09.2012 - 14:47:48 , level: 2, UP   NEW
tak je to asi aj individualne
mne napr. kvapky nepridu moc v pohode same o sebe
s analogom som problem nemal, fakt najhorsie to bolo vypit, aj tycka a j sracka bola rychla:)
a potom pohoda

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hargi
 hargi      31.08.2012 - 16:18:46 , level: 1, UP   NEW
jeeejda na boome 2008 som bol..

ale chanďža si ma nenašla :(

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StiX
 StiX      31.08.2012 - 15:26:10 , level: 1, UP   NEW
aj sa dozvieme aky mala teda ten bad trip?

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drakh
 drakh      31.08.2012 - 15:30:11 , level: 2, UP   NEW
to ze bol bad nestaci ?

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StiX
 StiX      31.08.2012 - 15:51:27 , level: 3, UP   NEW
tak zaujma ma ako moze vyzerat 15 minutovy bad dmt trip, este som nic take nezazil

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 :={outKasted}      01.09.2012 - 15:07:01 , level: 4, UP   NEW
no ja som mal kratsi
ale bol to bad trip jak remen zas:)
fakt asi jedine co sa da robit je otvorit oci a chciet sa vratit
no a potom mozno orgonit atd:)

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juraj
 juraj      31.08.2012 - 14:47:13 , level: 1, UP   NEW
ja to cely cas hovorim, ze tento matros nie je sranda.

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AZ
 AZ      31.08.2012 - 15:17:59 , level: 2, UP   NEW
su ludia co to beru ako srandu?

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juraj
 juraj      02.09.2012 - 01:14:21 , level: 3, UP   NEW
cudoval by si sa.

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acidmilk
 acidmilk      31.08.2012 - 15:21:51 , level: 3, UP   NEW
no zjavne ,) ked na party(!) kupis od neznameho cloveka nieco o com nic nevies(!!) a potom to pre istotu rovno aj sfajcis(..)

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hargi
 hargi      31.08.2012 - 16:21:08 [1K] , level: 4, UP   NEW
celkom štandardný scenár práveže

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333
 333      01.09.2012 - 09:45:50 , level: 5, UP   NEW
no ak jej to prislo v danej situacii ako standratny scenar tak sa ani moc necudujem tomu scenaru po "sfajceni" :)

ja si ludi a miesta celkom vyberam. /teda vecsinou :)) /

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tomas
 tomas      01.09.2012 - 14:46:02 , level: 6, UP   NEW
-II-

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killya
 killya      31.08.2012 - 16:57:54 , level: 5, UP   NEW
nastastie nie su este vsetci ludia take kurvy, ze by sa vysrali na vytripeneho cloveka...dost ma potesilo, ze sa nasli typci, co sa o nu postarali

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juraj
 juraj      02.09.2012 - 01:15:41 , level: 6, UP   NEW
ja som uz na dmt zazil takych ludi, o ktorych sa postarat dalo pramalo.

ale jasne, ze sa o to vzdy da pokusit.

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drakh
 drakh      31.08.2012 - 15:22:52 , level: 4, UP   NEW
ukazkovy harm reduction

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AZ
 AZ      31.08.2012 - 12:27:23 , level: 1, UP   NEW
bud na pozore pred svojimi demonmi ked otvaras dvere vedomia

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333
 333      01.09.2012 - 09:42:58 , level: 2, UP   NEW
no podla mna je lepsie "si to s nimi vydiskutovat" ako sa mat na pozore. mi to pride rozumnejsie ako prezit trip v strachu :)

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AZ
 AZ      02.09.2012 - 10:01:47 , level: 3, UP   NEW
mat sa na pozore v zmysle byt pripraveny a tym predist strachu>))

fear is the first enemy>)