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Su drobne "annoyances", a to su uplne specialne annoyances, ktorymi ma niktory iny vyrobca tak nevie nasrat, iba apple to vie. Su to drobunke veci, ktore pritom vedia silno nasrat. Apple to robi svojou uz rokmi overenou tradiciou - ODOBERANIM FEATUR a roznych funkcii z novsich verzii softwaru. Toto je vysoko systematicka buzeracia a degradacia userov na ovce. Je to ako ked nasa vlada naschval podporuje rozvoj demencie v krajine, aby ich mal kto volit.
Tak podme na vec.

Aby som sa zbavil potiazi s pripajanim na wifi router nejaky D-shit, tak som si zaobstaral airport express base station, taky ten najmensi, vyzera to ako nabijacka na macbook. Wifi sa mi odvtedy pripaja v klidku, problemy odisli.
Ale, a to az po instalacii 10.8, prisli 2 nove problemy.
Liona som nemal, lebo to bol odpad, tak som upgradoval az nedavno z 10.6 na 10.8. Tato verzia je zatial super, je to akoby opraveny lion. Ale stale pribudaju facepalmy, ze predsa len som mal vynechat aj tuto verziu.

Tieto 2 problemy sa tykaju iba tych userov, ktori sa pripajaju na net cez Airport base station, pripadne time capsule.

Prva vec sa vola Wake on demand - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3774?viewlocale=en_GB
Sumarum - po vykonani prikazu syslog|grep "Wake reason" su vratene timestampy poslednych prebudeni systemu. 5 zo 6 z nich nebolo vyvolanych userom, cize komp sa sam na chvilu prebudi a zas vypne, bez zapnutia displeja. To som si vsimol nedavno, v noci, ked bolo fakt ticho. Davnejsie s tym boli problemy - vyriesit sa dali vypnutim moznosti prebudit pocitac pomocou bluetooth zariadeni. S prichodom 10.8 (a mozno uz 10.7) pribudli userom airportov aj nove dovody samovolneho prebudzania macu - Wake for network access. V mojom pripade to vyzera asi takto:

Aug 2 19:44:14 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 3 00:33:53 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 02:22:06 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 04:10:17 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 05:58:26 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 07:46:34 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 08:30:45 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 3 10:19:32 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 12:07:45 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 13:55:53 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 15:44:01 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 17:32:09 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 17:59:00 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 3 19:51:29 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 21:39:37 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 3 23:27:45 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 4 01:15:53 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 4 03:04:01 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 4 04:52:09 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 4 06:40:23 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 4 06:41:40 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 4 06:43:34 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 6 07:58:04 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 6 21:14:45 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 6 22:20:11 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 7 09:44:45 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 7 11:32:59 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 7 13:21:07 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 7 15:09:15 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 7 16:57:23 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: RTC (Alarm)
Aug 7 18:18:11 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2

vsetko, co je RTC je samovolne prebudenie bez mojho vedomia, zdokumentovane vo vyssie zmienenom clanku.
Tak toto len tak FYI, kto ma airport a 10.8, vas mac sa samovolne prebudza bez opytania.


Druha vec, a toto je uz naozajstny epic fail. Nasledujuci screenshot povie vsetko:

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Samozrejme downgrade pomocou instalacie verzie 5.6 nefunguje, pretoze takato verzia nie je podporovana systemom. Takze absolutne nemozem konfigurovat airport. Tu je postup na extrakciu airport utility 5.6:
namountovat stiahnutu airport utilitu 5.6 .dmg
skopirovat obsiahnuty pkg subor do Downloads
$ cd ~/Downloads
$ pkgutil --expand ./AirPortUtility56.pkg ~/Downloads/AirPortUtility56
$ gunzip -c < ./AirPortUtility56/AirPortUtility56Lion.pkg/Payload | sudo tar -C / -xvf - "./Applications/Utilities/AirPort Utility 5.6.app"

WELL DONE, FAPPLE




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vratnik
 vratnik      12.08.2012 - 10:09:53 , level: 1, UP   NEW
overene: po vypnuti Wake for nw access sa uz samovolne neprebudza.

Aug 7 18:18:11 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 10 17:56:32 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 11 10:03:13 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2
Aug 11 11:31:29 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC1
Aug 12 10:07:02 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2

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eyo
 eyo      08.08.2012 - 01:31:14 , level: 1, UP   NEW
10.8 + TimeCapsule, ziadny z tvojich popisovanych problemov u mna.

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gymko
 gymko      07.08.2012 - 22:04:47 , level: 1, UP   NEW
Skusim odhadnut tvoju situaciu.
Z 10.6 si prechadza na 10.8 updatom systemu a nie cistou instalaciou...
Je to znamy problem uz od prechodu z 10.6 na 10.7... Pokial je system zabehnuty, pouzivany dlho tak po update zvykne blbnut.
Spravil by som to tak ze by som si vykopiroval usera na dajaky ext. disk a nainstaloval cely system nanovo s formatom hdd...
Potom ked nakopirujes user folder naspat a vytvoris uzivatela s menom toho foldera(mozes pouzit diakritiku a aj medzeru pouzije sa ta kratka forma) sa ta spyta ze taky home folder tam uz je a ci ho chces pouzit, pouzijes. toto ti zachova data, nastavenia a vsetko, jedine co musis je doinstalovat appky...
Mne to napr na ML 10.8 nerobi lebo mam new masinu kde bol lion asi iba 5 dni...

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vratnik
 vratnik      07.08.2012 - 22:20:33 , level: 2, UP   NEW
zdar, ano ja som po upgrade nebol spokojny s vykonom, preto som usera odzalohoval cez ccc, vyformatoval disk a nainstaloval from scratch, nasledne restorol usera (nie apps). V takomto stave je teraz, cize fresh instalacia.
"mi to nerobil" - teraz neviem ktory z tych 2 problemov mas na mysli.

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831
 831      07.08.2012 - 21:35:10 , level: 1, UP   NEW
co je to za express? ak je to posledny/very recent, tak toto nezvladli trochu
darkwaKe mi budil mini, ale vypnutim wake on network access /lion/ je sleepnuty poctivo furt; neviem, mozno je problem s tym expressom, ze sa to furt potrebuje refresovat..

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Trilobite
 Trilobite      07.08.2012 - 19:54:28 , level: 1, UP   NEW
samovolne prebudzanie, alebo tiez zname ako DarkWave je ficura uz od 10.6, kde to kazdy comp robil kvoli DHCP leasu
v 10.8 je vacsia implementacia hlavne kvoli Power Nap-u, takze ak mas air, tak ma to moc neprekvapuje.

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rayen
 rayen      07.08.2012 - 23:49:51 (modif: 08.08.2012 - 00:11:06), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ja mam airport extreme a nastavene dhcp prenajom na 7 dni.. ale tak kazde 2 hodiny nepravidelne sa mi zobudza .. to iste robi apple tv, nic ine sa nezmeni v sieti .. proste pozeram telku a vidim ze blika svetielko na 5 sekund a potom za zhasne.. na macu sa ten wake on lan aspon da vypnut

edit: inak toto iste mi to robilo uz na lione .. takze nic nove.. akoze keby som ho nemal tam kde spim ta kaslat ale takto co ma co skripat

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Trilobite
 Trilobite      08.08.2012 - 08:43:34 (modif: 08.08.2012 - 09:01:36), level: 3, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
to nema nic s airportom, to je featura osx
inak to s tym appletv tiez nechapem; pritom mi to zo zaciatku nerobilo.

ako hovorim - darkwake v jednoduchsej forme funguje od 10.6

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gymko
 gymko      07.08.2012 - 22:05:27 , level: 2, UP   NEW
Trilo: ked si precitas tento riadok:

Aug 2 19:44:14 iMac kernel[0] : Wake reason: EHC2

Pochpis ze to AIR nie je ;) :D

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Trilobite
 Trilobite      07.08.2012 - 22:47:35 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Ja som to do detailov neskumal

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ventYl
 ventYl      07.08.2012 - 19:47:33 , level: 1, UP   NEW
s tymto by som bol ticho, pretoze so stazovanim na chybajuce vlastnosti by si sa velmi lakho mohol stat kacirom, alebo niecim takym ;)