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Will Eastern Europe Trigger a Financial Meltdown?

We've commented from time to time that a possible financial flashpoint is countries that got themselves in the same fix as Iceland , of having a banking sector engaged in the generally risky practices that were standard form recently, and was outsized relative to the economy (Willem Buiter also points out that that precarious situation is made worse by having your own teeny currency).

While Ireland is in that position, a more immediate trigger for trouble is Eastern Europe. We've mentioned in particular the precarious position of Austria, which was a big lender to the region. As Ambrose Evans-Pritchard remarks in the Telegraph:

Austria's finance minister Josef Pröll made frantic efforts last week to put together a €150bn rescue for the ex-Soviet bloc. Well he might. His banks have lent €230bn to the region, equal to 70pc of Austria's GDP.

"A failure rate of 10pc would lead to the collapse of the Austrian financial sector," reported Der Standard in Vienna. Unfortunately, that is about to happen.

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) says bad debts will top 10pc and may reach 20pc. The Vienna press said Bank Austria and its Italian owner Unicredit face a "monetary Stalingrad" in the East.

Mr Pröll tried to drum up support for his rescue package from EU finance ministers in Brussels last week. The idea was scotched by Germany's Peer Steinbrück. Not our problem, he said...

Stephen Jen, currency chief at Morgan Stanley, said Eastern Europe has borrowed $1.7 trillion abroad, much on short-term maturities. It must repay – or roll over – $400bn this year, equal to a third of the region's GDP. Good luck. The credit window has slammed shut....

"This is the largest run on a currency in history," said Mr Jen.

In Poland, 60pc of mortgages are in Swiss francs. The zloty has just halved against the franc. Hungary, the Balkans, the Baltics, and Ukraine are all suffering variants of this story. As an act of collective folly – by lenders and borrowers – it matches America's sub-prime debacle. There is a crucial difference, however. European banks are on the hook for both. US banks are not.

Almost all East bloc debts are owed to West Europe, especially Austrian, Swedish, Greek, Italian, and Belgian banks. En plus, Europeans account for an astonishing 74pc of the entire $4.9 trillion portfolio of loans to emerging markets....

Whether it takes months, or just weeks, the world is going to discover that Europe's financial system is sunk, and that there is no EU Federal Reserve yet ready to act as a lender of last resort or to flood the markets with emergency stimulus....




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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      15.02.2009 - 23:56:13 , level: 1, UP   NEW
horsie? tu pisu:

The subprime mortgage mess alone does not force our hand; the $1.2 trillion it involves is just the beginning of the problem. Another $7 trillion -- including commercial real estate loans, consumer credit-card debt and high-yield bonds and leveraged loans -- is at risk of losing much of its value. Then there are trillions more in high-grade corporate bonds and loans and jumbo prime mortgages, whose worth will also drop precipitously as the recession deepens and more firms and households default on their loans and mortgages.

Last year we predicted that losses by U.S. financial institutions would hit $1 trillion and possibly go as high as $2 trillion. We were accused of exaggerating. But since then, write-downs by U.S. banks have passed the $1 trillion mark, and now institutions such as the International Monetary Fund and Goldman Sachs predict losses of more than $2 trillion.


okrem toho mam pocit ze europske riesenie bankovych problemov ma dobru sancu byt vyriesene lepsie ako ten americky bordel (ked pre nic ine tak preto ze sa mozu poucit z americkych chyb)

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L4ky
 L4ky      16.02.2009 - 11:03:46 (modif: 16.02.2009 - 11:24:25), level: 2, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
Nemyslim ze EU bankam by nehrozilo to o com sa pise v suvislosti s US bankami v tvojom prispevku.

"..commercial real estate loans, consumer credit-card debt and high-yield bonds and leveraged loans -- is at risk of losing much of its value. Then there are trillions more in high-grade corporate bonds and loans and jumbo prime mortgages, whose worth will also drop precipitously as the recession deepens and more firms and households default on their loans and mortgages."

EU banky totiz este ani poriadne nezacali odpisovat straty - vid clanok nizsie. Zda sa mi skor ze hraju o cas.. A dufaju ze casom nieco odpisu, nejake zdroje dostanu od vlad a zbytok upracu pod koberec nejakymi uctovnymi kluckami. Navyse 20+ krajin sa tazsie dohodne na nejakom krizovom rieseni ako jedna federalna vlada. Napriklad taliani, ktorych banky su dost vystavene napospas zlym uverom v byvalom vychodnom bloku, prijali protikrizovy balicek "az" 9 MLD Eur, co je dost slabe, vzhladom na ich aj tak anemicky stav hospodarstva. To cim si uz dlhsie prechadzaju svedske banky v suvislosti s pobaltskymi statmi caka aj taliansko, rakusko, UK, belgicko,..

European banks' toxic debts risk overwhelming EU governments

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/4593539/European-banks-toxic-debts-risk-overwhelming-EU-governments.html

...The IMF says European and British banks have 75pc as much exposure to US toxic debt as American banks themselves yet they have been much slower to take their punishment. Write-downs have been $738bn in the US: just $294bn in Europe.

Global banks have so far written down half the $2,200bn losses estimated by the IMF. On top of this, EU banks have $1,600bn of exposure to Eastern Europe -- increasingly viewed as Europe’s subprime debacle, and EU corporate debts are 95pc of GDP compared to 50pc in the US, a mounting concern as default rates surge.

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L4ky
 L4ky      16.02.2009 - 11:29:38 , level: 3, UP   NEW

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      16.02.2009 - 12:52:41 , level: 4, UP   NEW
to znamena ze banky pozicali napriklad do CR ~180 miliard dolarov (ekvivalent)? Na Slovensko ~80 miliard? Kde su vsetky tie peniaze? Ide len o privatny sektor alebo aj statne dlhopisy etc?

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L4ky
 L4ky      16.02.2009 - 13:04:48 (modif: 16.02.2009 - 13:05:46), level: 5, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
mali by to byt pohladavky zahranicnych bank celkovo. statne papiere, pozicky firmam aj jednotlivcom.

+ naliatie kapitalu do dcerskych bank ktore v tychto krajinach sprivatizovali a ktore budu pod velkym tlakom (slovensko je na tom relativne ok, hlavne kvoli euru a konzervativnejsiemu portfoliu).

Ak tu niekto vie presnejsie detaily tak pastnite pls

mimochodom, graf vyssie je z prvej polovice minuleho roka


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ooo
 ooo      16.02.2009 - 10:23:03 , level: 2, UP   NEW
toto bude este kopec srandy.. idem racej robit:)