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BRIAN WASHING
 BRIAN WASHING      09.05.2008 - 23:59:22 (modif: 10.05.2008 - 00:26:44), level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
mne to pripomenulo film La Haine(Nenavist) by Mathieu Kassovitz a uvod Aphex Twin-Come to Daddy od Chrisa Cunninghama
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/la-haine-trailer/4189420022
v nejakej diskusii bolo ze this one here is 1/4 gta, 1/4 la haine, 1/4 clockrowrk orange, and 1/4 birth of a nation.
alebo ze The point of view is very much Sarkozy's wet dream.Was is the treatment?: Having black guys raping, robbing and abusing people? Paintintg the lower class in as bad a light as possible?
...............
som zvedavy co o tom povedia Justice a reziser

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kedilek
 kedilek      10.12.2008 - 23:19:56 , level: 2, UP   NEW
čo o tom povedali? zistil si? :)

tento koment z istej diskusie úplne vystihol to čo si o tom klipe myslím ja:

Shoddy attempt at scoring cool points…Ill conceived, ill thought out and only the execution (just about) saves it from being a pile of crap. Yes, it’s a good piece of film-making but it’s a terrible piece of storytelling.

What I want to know is, are Justice going to give the profits of this or any record to ending the social depravation that causes gangs like this to rise… Probably not.

Are they going to maybe commission a film into the supposed backgrounds of the people that they’re portraying, to show what has brutalised them into treating the world this way… I doubt it.

Maybe take some time out to promote something in the local area where it was filmed… I would hope so, But I fear that they may be too busy celebrating record sales in a cool part of Paris with their cool mates.

Gang violence is an endemic problem in Europe but then so is Paedophilia - but I can’t see a band making a video of it… Why? Because they can’t look cool by association by ’showing the world as it is’ and having the rapist wearing their logo on his/her jacket.

Don’t even mention this in the same breath as La Haine… A film that actually showed the people behind the social problem and try to propose some solutions.

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denimkolos
 denimkolos      10.05.2008 - 10:15:42 , level: 2, UP   NEW
no ano, z toho cunnighama je tam az moc, ale zase, inspiroval sa jednym z najlepsich:)

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dnc
 dnc      09.05.2008 - 17:29:20 , level: 1, UP   NEW
BAGALTAR je veduci!!!!

aj Felicia je tam : )

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macik
 macik      09.05.2008 - 15:45:26 , level: 1, UP   NEW
tie prve 2 klipy, to co je za sedlacinu ?!?

neverim vlastnym ociam...

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nezvucil
 nezvucil      12.05.2008 - 14:06:31 , level: 2, UP   NEW
a to druhe je najlepsie ;)

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mirex
 mirex      09.05.2008 - 19:48:05 , level: 2, UP   NEW
to prve je dost krute video, hlavne ked tam vidis tych ludi ako iba stoja okolo a prizeraju sa nasiliu ... take ako je to v realite.

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drifter
 drifter      09.05.2008 - 14:24:40 , level: 1, UP   NEW
exekucia toho stress klipu je super, vratane suladu so samotnou pesnickou

je na tom klipe, ale nieco inovativne? imho nie je umenie vyvolat intenzivne pocity u ludi s pouzitim brutalneho nasilia a scen, kde sa ublizuje "slabsim".
+ ta scenka s policajtami ho odtrhla od reality, co sa mi dovtedy na tom klipe dost ratalo a imho to aj je jeho cielom..len za cenu toho mat tam zaber dokopaneho policajta na zemi..

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niekto
 niekto      12.05.2008 - 02:19:28 , level: 2, UP   NEW
v com ti prisla scena interakcie s policajtami nerealna?
teda okrem toho ze to mozno vramci porovnania sil a tiez kovli momentu prejkvapenia
ti mali grazli nemali asi rozchodit..

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denimkolos
 denimkolos      12.05.2008 - 12:41:48 , level: 3, UP   NEW
myslim ze chcel/a povedat ze klip posobi autentickym dojmom, ze si to chalani sami nakrutili, a moment bytia policajta to cele vratil na zem, ze je to len hrane. co je v konecnom dosledku jasne, cely klip je zrezirovany:)a dobre.

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niekto
 niekto      12.05.2008 - 13:26:19 (modif: 12.05.2008 - 13:29:14), level: 4, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
ale to co pises je jasne, na to som sa ani nepytal .)

moja otazka bola ohladne bitia policajtov, respektive prislusnikov security metra. v niektorych europskych krajinach nemaju prave ti druhi povolene nosit strelnu zbran, takze taketo strety s nimi nemusia byt fatalne, a tym padom niesu ani uplne nerealne.. (napadlo ma to v suvislosti s niektorymi drsnejsimi graffiti videami, ktorych prvky by sa v klipe tiez dali najst, a nemyslim zrovna len tu scenu so sprejom)

viem ze reisim len detail/blbost, ale aj tak ma zaujima preco vam ta scena pride az taka nerealna?

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drifter
 drifter      14.05.2008 - 08:55:04 (modif: 14.05.2008 - 08:58:41), level: 5, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
presne ako pises! mne sa na tom klipe velmi ratalo to, ze je spraveny velmi realisticky, ako spravanie toho gangu, tak reakcie resp dopad na ludi, ktorym ublizuju, ci okolite prostredie. ale ta scenka s policajtami ho z toho uplne vytrhla..vyruti sa na nich 4-5 fizlov z vytahu s tym, ze ich vysprchuju pepper sprejom a chvilku na to, chlapci dokopovaju jedneho na zemi a v plnom pocte utekaju prec..

ano je to detail, ale dobry klip/story na takychto detailoch stoji a pada

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dbx
 dbx      09.05.2008 - 13:56:57 , level: 1, UP   NEW
stress je vymakany

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his name is alice
 his name is alice      09.05.2008 - 11:38:10 , level: 1, UP   NEW
kokos.. z justice som mala ukrutné zimomriavky
super!! SUPER!

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dulb
 dulb      09.05.2008 - 11:18:53 , level: 1, UP   NEW
ten justice stress ma dostal. dobra pracicka :)

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denimkolos
 denimkolos      09.05.2008 - 11:02:40 (modif: 09.05.2008 - 11:03:05), level: 1, UP   NEW !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
video k justice je nakutene mrte autenticky. vyborne. pomaranc.

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.sw3rty
 .sw3rty      09.05.2008 - 01:23:22 , level: 1, UP   NEW
jj stress- cisty mechanicky pomaranc :) super song n video

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SYNAPSE CREATOR
 niekto      06.05.2008 - 00:56:54 (modif: 06.05.2008 - 13:08:23), level: 1, UP   NEW  HARDLINK !!CONTENT CHANGED!!
update: a dodatocne som zistil ze toto (a aj djmehdi.signatune) ma rovnakeho rezisera ako vec v parente :))


menej krute, ale aj menej inscenovane.
a vtipne je porovnanie s vecami ktore si toci vacsina svk hiphopovych zoskupeni.
rovnaky obsah a prvky, natocene shitnejsiou technikou ale s vysledkom ktory ma imho o dost vacsiu silu..