Re[7]: 02.04.2008-16:53:33 :: Something smarter than us is going to emerge


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virusy sa uz davno nepisu koli egu. a kto povedal ze potrebujs admin prava aby si robil zle?:)

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hm okej ale pod unixom tomu hovorim rootkits a nie virusi, nevedel som ze to nerozdelujes :)

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rootkity maju jasnu definiciu..
A rootkit is a program (or combination of several programs) designed to take fundamental control (in Unix terms "root" access, in Windows terms "Administrator" access) of a computer system, without authorization by the system's owners and legitimate managers. ... but in recent years have been largely malware to help intruders gain access to systems while avoiding detection. (wikipedia)
ja hovorim o tom, ze aj s user-pravami mozes narobit dost zle, bez toho aby si toho roota musel mat.
staci ti, ak pustis nejaky evil kod na pozadi, ktory bude dajme tomu pocuvat na nejakom vysokom porte, alebo sa pripoji na nejaku ipcku z ktorej bude prijimat prikazy. nemusis mat cely system na to aby si ho mohol zneuzit. takto mozes v pohode kurit plny vykon zo stroja len pre seba, alebo vyuzivat konektivitu na rozosielanie spamu, robenie DDoS utokov...

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naopak dolezita vec pri definovani virusu je fakt, ze sa vie replikovat, co na linuxe/OSX je vcelku problem

v DOSe/windowse ma user pravo zapisovat takmer vsade, kedze je bud admin, alebo power user (hovorim o SOHO desktopoch). naopak v linuxe pod beznym userom zvacsa nemas sancu menit systemove nastavenia, libky a pod.

podla mna jeden z dolezitych faktorov mensieho sirenia virusov na linuxe je aj to, ze sa tam pouziva radovo menej executable warezu.

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pokym ide o binarky programov, tie samozrejme infikovat nevie, ale naco aj, ked sa vie poslat dalej cez mail.. uz davno som nevidel virus co by ti zacal prepisovat systemove subory, to sa uz nejak nenosi :) vacsinou je to teraz malware, ktory sa siri cez mail/IM. a citat contact list v mailovom programe(thunderbird/evolution/whatever) tiez nie je problem..

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prepisovanie systemovych suborov na windowse je stale bezna praktika
ale suhlasim, ze sirenie cez mail/IM je dneska podstatne beznejsie.

social engineering rulez, ked uz spolocnosti ako-tak popatchovali operacne systemy, diery su stale medzi klavesnicou a stolickou :)