hihi, taka hlupost, nieje to citanie pre nikoho ineho len pre mna, ukladam si dva logy z ircu, co som kecal s dvomi cudzincami, vraj portugalec a druhy ind. ved sa da docitat. niekde som bol zcestny :))) a sak ja uz toho natrepem kadekde a kadeco :) ale celkom v poho chat, dufam ze im neublizi ked si to sem odlozim. ten druhy som uz musel ku koncu cutnut. so here it is... inak zaujimave ze prisli v ten isty vecer s tou istou ideou, a tak som im obom napisal nech je sranda :)

[23:03] <Romanos> well, are you in portugal at the moment?
[23:03] <PortugueseMan> yes
[23:03] <Romanos> and what is your purpose?
[23:04] <PortugueseMan> i would like to have a slovak girlfriend.
[23:05] <Romanos> that sounds psycho, but i have nothing against your choice :)) but well, why slovak? is there something particular in it?
[23:06] <PortugueseMan> they are exotic, nice and pretty girls.
[23:07] <Romanos> exotic?
[23:07] <Romanos> Portugese women are exotic :)
[23:07] <Romanos> i thought that countries close to the equator of the Earth are considered to be exotic
[23:08] <PortugueseMan> :))
[23:08] <PortugueseMan> For a portuguese exotic is also eastern countries, for example
[23:08] <Romanos> aha
[23:09] <Romanos> because I understood meaning of exotic like, warm country, with warm people :) and they are usually countries in the middle, not here in north
[23:10] <PortugueseMan> yes, usually.
[23:10] <Romanos> so you want just girlfriend
[23:10] <PortugueseMan> yes
[23:10] <Romanos> no relationships, just to have some fun? :)
[23:10] <PortugueseMan> no, i want a relationship.
[23:11] <Romanos> why? simply :)
[23:11] <Romanos> did you just decided?
[23:12] <PortugueseMan> i decided a long time ago.
[23:12] <PortugueseMan> :)
[23:12] <Romanos> :)
[23:12] <Romanos> yeah many of us, but many are still single :)
[23:13] <Romanos> but
[23:13] <Romanos> what do you think your chances are?
[23:13] <Romanos> or
[23:13] <Romanos> what was the previous country?
[23:13] <Romanos> now you want slovak, but which was before? have you tried another country previously?
[23:14] <PortugueseMan> Yes. I would like slovak or polish girlfriend.
[23:14] <Romanos> :)
[23:14] <Romanos> what about czech?
[23:16] <PortugueseMan> :)
[23:16] <PortugueseMan> they are nice too.
[23:16] <PortugueseMan> But.. i dont know if they would like me.
[23:17] <Romanos> hm i think that is very individual, you cannot look on it as a general theory :)
[23:17] <Romanos> or you have another opinion?
[23:18] <PortugueseMan> Hm.. dont know, i dont know czech language, and dont know so many things about the country. But they are very nice, indeed. I think one of the best in the world.
[23:19] <Romanos> :)
[23:19] <Romanos> you mentiond language, does it mean you understand slovak or polish language?
[23:19] <PortugueseMan> not exactly. I know only polish language.
[23:20] <Romanos> oh, where have you learned?
[23:20] <PortugueseMan> Czech girls are also very pretty, but i dont know if it could work out.
[23:20] <PortugueseMan> in poland and in portugal.
[23:21] <Romanos> so you've been in poland, that is nice
[23:22] <Romanos> actually, polish, czech and slovak languages are very simillar, I am not sure, but as far as I know portugese, spanish, italian, french languages have many similarities as well, so these languages have as well something like that
[23:22] <PortugueseMan> yes it is.
[23:22] <PortugueseMan> And you are from where?
[23:23] <Romanos> slovak and czech are so simillar that you can speak slovak in czech and they will understand you, and vice versa
[23:24] <Romanos> I am slovak, but at the moment I reside in UK
[23:24] <Romanos> heh there is one question I wanted to ask
[23:25] <Romanos> why you are interested in central european women? you do not like portuguese women? :))
[23:25] <PortugueseMan> aha, working there in uk?
[23:25] <PortugueseMan> i dont like..
[23:25] <Romanos> for me, I would preffer same nationality for my girlfriend :)
[23:25] <Romanos> why you do not like?
[23:26] <PortugueseMan> i dont know, maybe i am not so special to them. And i know polish. It seems that i am immigrant.
[23:27] <Romanos> it seems?
[23:27] <Romanos> usually it does not seem :) it is OR it is not :)
[23:27] <Romanos> or better, you are or you are not immigrant :)
[23:29] <PortugueseMan> yeah, but here people from eastern europe are not so popular. And a portuguese who knows polish, something is not right.. :(
[23:30] <Romanos> well but it has nothing to do with immigration yet :)
[23:31] <Romanos> sorry to interfere, but if you meant poland as eastern europe I am sorry to say but these countries, or better, we consider ourselves as central europe :)
[23:31] <PortugueseMan> yes.
[23:32] <PortugueseMan> But here are only people from eastern european countries.
[23:32] <Romanos> where is it here?
[23:32] <PortugueseMan> in Portugal.
[23:32] <Romanos> aha
[23:32] <PortugueseMan> russians, ukranians,bielorussians,moldavians,etc
[23:32] <Romanos> aha
[23:33] <Romanos> i've never been in portuguese, no idea :)
[23:33] <Romanos> however, we had unofficial plan with one of my friends to visit portuguese this summer
[23:34] <PortugueseMan> thats nice.
[23:34] <Romanos> can you give me some advice on tourism in your country? :)
[23:35] <PortugueseMan> hmm dont know..
[23:35] <PortugueseMan> Lisbon, you have to visit.
[23:35] <Romanos> :)
[23:36] <Romanos> looks like you are not even interested in your origin-country at all, not just a women :)
[23:37] <PortugueseMan> :)
[23:38] <Romanos> well, sorry for this question but,...
[23:38] <Romanos> are you really portuguese?
[23:40] <PortugueseMan> yes
[23:40] <PortugueseMan> i am.
[23:41] <Romanos> give me good reason to trust you :) please
[23:43] <PortugueseMan> i know portuguese
[23:45] <Romanos> ok
[23:45] <Romanos> i just can't believe that portugalman don't like portugal :)
[23:46] <PortugueseMan> :)
[00:00] <Romanos> so what to say
[00:00] <Romanos> good luck in looking up your love :)
[00:02] <PortugueseMan> ok
[00:03] <Romanos> ok?
[00:03] <PortugueseMan> yes.
[00:03] <Romanos> you are quite flegmatic :)
[00:04] <PortugueseMan> what is it?
[00:05] <Romanos> it is not like you are not interested, but you do not offer standard ammount of affection :)
[00:06] <PortugueseMan> :)
[00:06] <PortugueseMan> i understand
[00:06] <PortugueseMan> So i could be also a scandinavian person
[00:09] <PortugueseMan> well, about your visit to Portugal-> Be in Lisbon, Sintra and Cascais.
[00:09] <PortugueseMan> Also be in south of portugal, Algarve- the region of nice beaches and warm weather.
[00:10] <PortugueseMan> If you would like to be in the mountains, choose to be in Douro region, Ger&#234;s/Peneda, Serra da estrela [2000 meters] and Trás os Montes.
[00:11] <PortugueseMan> You can also be in Azores and Madeira, our beautiful islands in the atlantic ocean
[00:18] <Romanos> thank you :), can you tell me your name?
[00:18] No such nick/channel
[00:18] <Romanos> ah, gone :)
[00:18] No such nick/channel
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a druhy log

[23:39] <dubber> english?
[23:40] <Romanos> yes
[23:40] <Romanos> where are you from?
[23:40] <dubber> i am from india
[23:41] <Romanos> ah god
[23:41] <Romanos> india
[23:41] <Romanos> :)
[23:41] <Romanos> why would anybody from india lear slovak :)
[23:42] <dubber> I got a friend from slovakia and i want to understand her better.
[23:43] <Romanos> so why don't you ask her to help :)
[23:43] <dubber> she doesn't seem to help and has taught me all the wrong words but nothing good.
[23:44] <Romanos> :)))
[23:45] <Romanos> hmm why do you want to lear language for somebody who does not seems to be helpful and is doing just nasty things :)))
[23:45] <Romanos> sorry lear=learn
[23:45] <dubber> thats alright
[23:45] <Romanos> so? the answer?
[23:46] <dubber> i can't get books to study slovak here.
[23:46] <Romanos> ahh
[23:46] <dubber> and she has told her relatives in slovakia to send a book for me but its taking too much of time.
[23:46] <Romanos> :))
[23:47] <Romanos> what is your friendship based on?
[23:48] <dubber> the basis, i feel, is truth from my side with full devotion.
[23:48] <Romanos> you mean love?
[23:48] <Romanos> :)
[23:49] <dubber> yes you can say but things seem to be so much vague sometimes.
[23:49] <dubber> anyways tell me more about yourself also.
[23:49] <Romanos> have you met her in real in your life?
[23:50] <dubber> what u mean by that?
[23:51] <Romanos> if you have seen her, talked to her, or is it just an internet friendship?
[23:51] <dubber> no i meet her 2-3 times a week here in london.
[23:52] <Romanos> how old are you?
[23:53] <dubber> 26
[23:53] <dubber> and what abt u?
[23:54] <Romanos> hey, do not harash with me :))) im boy so you cant anyway :)))))))
[23:55] <dubber> okay. anyway tell me what is the meaning of milacek.
[23:56] <Romanos> are you sure about spelling? well actually you might get it wrong
[23:56] <Romanos> milacik
[23:56] <dubber> yes thats right
[23:57] <Romanos> or the real form of word is milácik you would not get it correctly displayed :)
[23:57] <Romanos> ok the meaning
[23:57] <dubber> yes i know. she also puts a lot of dashes or signs above words in her writing.
[23:59] <Romanos> if I say you are my milacik that means that you are nice to me, you are behaving nice, I consider you either looking nice, or behaving nice, something like that. this word is mainly used between partners in love.
[00:00] <dubber> yes she used it a lot about 3 months back.
[00:00] <Romanos> :)
[00:00] <Romanos> what does she use now?
[00:00] <dubber> and i know that milujem ta also means something good.
[00:01] <Romanos> what does it mean?
[00:01] <dubber> i think it means i love you.
[00:01] <dubber> thats wat she told me.
[00:01] <Romanos> yes it does
[00:02] <Romanos> how do you say "i love you" in india?
[00:02] <dubber> you know what romanos, she is good but maybe it is the difference of our cultures that we have some misunderstandings occasionally.
[00:03] <Romanos> yes that might be possible
[00:03] <dubber> in my dialect, we say "main tainun pyaar kardaa haan!"
[00:03] <Romanos> oh, that sounds difficult :)
[00:04] <dubber> i am coming to slovakia in may with her.
[00:04] <Romanos> good luck :)
[00:04] <dubber> to her home.
[00:04] <Romanos> may is good time
[00:04] <Romanos> it will be nice and warm
[00:04] <Romanos> you will need just a tshirt :)
[00:05] <dubber> yes she says so but when coming back, i have to come alone.
[00:05] <Romanos> :)
[00:05] <dubber> i don't know the language but i think it is easy for boys anyways.
[00:06] <dubber> moving alone in slovakia, i mean.
[00:06] <Romanos> well, you will have basic problem there
[00:06] <Romanos> in slovak there is general majority of white origin people
[00:07] <dubber> yes but i want to learn slovakian before i go there in order to talk with her parents or friends.
[00:07] <Romanos> you will the only one of your kind which might give you stress or feeling of loneliness
[00:07] <Romanos> dubber, forget about slovak language, you will never learn it :)
[00:08] <dubber> yes she told me and she also said that only people who have black hair in slovakia are called "gypsies"
[00:08] <Romanos> yes that is true
[00:08] <Romanos> they are not appreciated by slovaks
[00:09] <Romanos> they refuse to incorporate themselves into work-life style, they usualy don't work, just survive
[00:09] <Romanos> or
[00:09] <Romanos> well
[00:09] <Romanos> it is a discussion for a long time
[00:09] <Romanos> and there are many factors
[00:10] <dubber> yes everywhere some part of these exist, in india also.
[00:10] <dubber> but i am strong and i don't care.
[00:10] <dubber> maybe io just need to be a bit careful.
[00:11] <dubber> you seem to have a good and wise uderstanding of everyday life there.
[00:11] <dubber> dobre, isn't it?
[00:12] <Romanos> it might happen that you come along with a group of people who are, you know, how to explain, like nazi. not likely to happen, but it might occur. be cautious when you will walk across a people with no hair on their head, and if they are very muscullar :)
[00:13] <Romanos> it sounds funny to me to talk about this, but really, some people in slovak have strange ideology, and they might not appreciate your presence, but it depends on location, which town are you going to? do you know?
[00:13] <dubber> well u haven't seen me then.;-)
[00:14] <dubber> its kosice.
[00:14] <Romanos> well, you can be strong as you like, but if you meet 6 of these, you have no chance, i would advise you to run rather if possible
[00:15] <dubber> is slovakia such a dangerous place?
[00:15] <dubber> i am scared.
[00:15] <Romanos> no it is not
[00:15] <dubber> ;-)
[00:15] <Romanos> sorry i did not want to scare you
[00:16] <dubber> its alright.
[00:16] <dubber> so tell me more about yourself also.
[00:16] <Romanos> it is like, not going to happen but there is posibilitty 1:100 000
[00:16] <dubber> now u have a good picture of what is happening in my life.
[00:17] <dubber> that means .001% and thats too less.
[00:17] <dubber> its the same everywhere.
[00:17] <dubber> but i have lived in india and can survive anywhere in the world.
[00:17] <Romanos> actually if you get into problem you will understand immediatelly, and all i can say, don't play hero in such a case :)
[00:19] <Romanos> Kosice is the second biggest town of slovakia
[00:19] <dubber> dear, here in london i am working in a place which has the same peo[ple as u r talking but life has its ups and downs.
[00:19] <dubber> is it?
[00:19] <Romanos> dubber, in my country there is a small difference however :)
[00:20] <dubber> but i have to travel from kosice to bratislava by bus and then to airport.
[00:20] <dubber> wats the difference?
[00:20] <Romanos> in london, you are in multinational city, and police is covering any nation. because it is also multinational.
[00:21] <Romanos> in slovak, all people are slovak, they speak slovak and that's it.
[00:21] <Romanos> how will you e.g. explain to police that what is the problem if they cant understand you :)))
[00:22] <dubber> yes you are right but lets see what happens.i hope i don't have bad memories of slovakia when i come back to england.
[00:22] <Romanos> for sure you will not :)
[00:23] <Romanos> you have to be optimistic and enthusiastic
[00:23] <Romanos> you know, this week i was on training of risk planning, so now I am full of pesimistic scenarios :)
[00:23] <dubber> i am and i dont think i am going on a war in slovakia.:-)
[00:24] <dubber> thats funny.
[00:25] <dubber> maybe you need to change the situation around yourself or you need a holiday or something to boost your mind levels.
[00:26] <Romanos> where do you live in london? :)
[00:26] <dubber> romanos, i need to have some food now and will return back in about 15 minutes. hope to see u here.I live in feltham in london.
[00:27] <Romanos> but it is quite late
[00:27] <dubber> that is south west london
[00:27] <dubber> yes it is.
[00:27] <Romanos> you don't plan to go sleep soon?
[00:27] <Romanos> ah feltham
[00:27] <Romanos> you are not so far from me
[00:27] <Romanos> it is under heathrow isn't it?
[00:27] <dubber> yes it is.
[00:27] <Romanos> im over heathrow in hillingdon
[00:28] <dubber> is it?
[00:28] <dubber> thats good.
[00:28] <Romanos> :))
[00:28] <dubber> its just 20 minutes from feltham.
[00:28] <Romanos> little more
[00:28] <Romanos> :)
[00:29] <Romanos> you have to go by 2 buses
[00:29] <dubber> yes maybe.
[00:29] <dubber> so wat u do here in hillingdon?
[00:29] <Romanos> live :)
[00:29] <Romanos> probably i do here same thing like you do there in feltham :)
[00:29] <dubber> wta exactly?
[00:30] <Romanos> it is not good to talk about business, what do you think?
[00:30] <Romanos> anyway
[00:30] <dubber> yes some people just talk business.
[00:30] <Romanos> what about your culture? is it ok in your culture to find a girlfriend from different culture?
[00:31] <dubber> no its a big problem in our culture.
[00:31] <Romanos> so how you're going to deal with it?
[00:31] <Romanos> :)))
[00:31] <dubber> my parents would never agree for a foreign girl.
[00:31] <Romanos> uf, you will give them hard lesson :)
[00:31] <dubber> i will deal with it because it is my life and i know i have to live with her not them.
[00:32] <dubber> but still we never know of the future.
[00:32] <Romanos> you are talking nice :)
[00:32] <Romanos> but yeah
[00:32] <Romanos> in most cases, the culture wins :) unfortunately
[00:32] <dubber> main thing is the question"if she is right for me or not" i mean worth fighting.
[00:33] <Romanos> it would be nice if everybody finds partner from diferent nation and we mix together and become just one nation all over the world :)
[00:33] <Romanos> yes exactly
[00:33] <Romanos> is it clear/healthy love? that is the main point
[00:34] <dubber> yes it would be but thats not the end, even relatives don't like to live together, what to talk of foreigners.
[00:34] <dubber> i would like to talk more with you but can you wait about 10 minutes for me.
[00:34] <dubber> i really need to have some food.
[00:34] <Romanos> :)
[00:34] <Romanos> yeah im waiting
[00:45] <Romanos> dubber, ten minutes gone :)))
[00:49] <dubber> i am here.
[00:49] <Romanos> :)
[00:49] <Romanos> what have you ate?
[00:50] <dubber> bread with chicken fillets.
[00:50] <dubber> did you have ur food?
[00:51] <Romanos> i am going to sleep soon, i do not eat close to sleeping point :)
[00:51] <Romanos> when will you go to bed?
[00:52] <dubber> i am also just going to bed soon, tommorow again i have to go for work.
[00:52] <Romanos> where do you work?
[00:53] <dubber> i am a manager in bookies.
[00:53] <dubber> and what about you.
[00:53] <Romanos> bookies?
[00:53] <Romanos> what is bookies?
[00:53] <dubber> you know the betting shops.
[00:54] <Romanos> bookies is the shop?
[00:54] <Romanos> aaaaah
[00:54] <dubber> no.
[00:54] <Romanos> yeah
[00:54] <Romanos> bettings
[00:55] <dubber> betting on horses, football, greyhounds.
[00:55] <Romanos> i know, there is one with green color in its sign but i forgot name
[00:55] <Romanos> well, i got it
[00:55] <Romanos> i do database staff
[00:55] <Romanos> and administration
[00:55] <dubber> thats good.
[00:56] <dubber> how long have u been here?
[00:56] <Romanos> not so long
[00:57] <dubber> i have been 2 and a half years.
[00:57] <Romanos> me something like half of it
[00:58] <Romanos> where did you met her?
[00:58] <dubber> you have gf
[00:59] <Romanos> no :)
[00:59] <dubber> why?
[00:59] <dubber> ur working alright.
[00:59] <dubber> wats ur age?
[01:00] <Romanos> 23
[01:00] <dubber> where u work? i mean hillingdon or london?
[01:01] <dubber> do u feel satisfied here?
[01:01] <Romanos> hillingdon
[01:01] <Romanos> well, i would not be satisfied in my country
[01:01] <Romanos> here it is fine
[01:01] <Romanos> you know there is very high unemployment rating in slovak
[01:01] <dubber> yes thats right, here atleast nobody bothers u.
[01:01] <dubber> u r ur own ruler.
[01:01] <Romanos> oh, that is not good
[01:02] <Romanos> i would like to go back
[01:02] <dubber> why?
[01:02] <Romanos> i came for experience, so i can get proper job home
[01:02] <Romanos> i am missing my friends
[01:02] <dubber> yes i know but friends don't stay full life and neither the family.
[01:03] <Romanos> how do you mean, don't stay full life?
[01:03] <dubber> they change, situations change, rich, poor, strong, weak, far, close, up, down, happy, sad, friends, foes!!!
[01:04] <dubber> we have to do everything ourselves.
[01:04] <Romanos> in my country we have to words for friends
[01:05] <Romanos> friend=kamarat or friend=priatel
[01:05] <dubber> wat does that mean.
[01:05] <Romanos> if you are friend(kamarat) you are friend to go out with to do whatever you like on friendship basis
[01:06] <dubber> and priatel?
[01:07] <Romanos> however friend(priatel) is same like friend(kamarat) but you also share your emotional life, no matter what happens, even if you start fight against each other, after time you realize you did wrong and you gather together again
[01:07] <Romanos> you know almost everything about them, they know everything about you
[01:07] <dubber> yes thats right exactly.
[01:07] <dubber> because u feel that the other person is also your responsibility.
[01:07] <Romanos> and who i am missing are my friends(priatel)
[01:08] <Romanos> yes, might be :)
[01:08] <dubber> even if angry, u have to take care of them.
[01:08] <Romanos> :)
[01:09] <Romanos> i think i really need to sleep
[01:10] <Romanos> so have nice time here, or also in slovak :)
[01:10] <dubber> yes maybe me also but i would really like to thank u for talking and that also at such a mature level.
[01:10] <dubber> naasdravia!
[01:10] <dubber> chin chin!
[01:10] <Romanos> :)) you are nice :)
[01:10] <dubber> yes i am.
[01:10] <Romanos> naasdravia is not slovak :)) it is russian probably :)
[01:10] <Romanos> nazdravie is slovak version
[01:11] <Romanos> never try to learn slovak or any other slavonic language :) unbearable :)))
[01:11] <Romanos> i am not joking :)
[01:11] <Romanos> thank you too
[01:11] <Romanos> it was good to learn something from you
[01:11] <dubber> no i will. in 1 month, i will be talking too good.
[01:12] <dubber> wat did u learn from me?
[01:12] <Romanos> well, what do you want to hear? :))) life is school isn't it?
[01:13] <dubber> life is a school for everybody but we should make more of it.
[01:13] <dubber> anyways romanos my name is manj.
[01:13] <dubber> can i know urs?
[01:13] <Romanos> ah :) you should stay modest
[01:13] <Romanos> Manj
[01:14] <Romanos> never heard, but is nice
[01:14] <Romanos> my name is Roman ... without "os" :)
[01:14] <dubber> yes it is, same as my mind.
[01:14] <Romanos> hehehehe
[01:14] <Romanos> you think you are nice :)))
[01:14] <dubber> yes i am.
[01:15] <Romanos> that is naive :)))
[01:15] <dubber> truly.
[01:15] <dubber> when truth is there, then confidence comes naturally.
[01:15] <Romanos> you should leave consideration of yours, to others :) should you not?
[01:16] <dubber> no, in the end, what matters is what u think of yourself, how u compare urself to ur own past, and ur own achievements.
[01:16] <dubber> maybe its my way.
[01:16] <dubber> i never compare myself with anybody else but just with me but at different times or stages of life.
[01:17] <Romanos> i do not compare myself at all, or not in the meaning of nice or not nice
[01:18] <dubber> i understand perfectly what u mean but my way gives a lot of energy.
[01:18] <Romanos> well, but we are falling now into phylosophy, and that is dangerous for mind :)
[01:19] <dubber> yes that is right but to tell u the truth, i love it.
[01:19] <Romanos> lets have a break
[01:19] <dubber> maybe some other time, we talk about that also.
[01:20] <Romanos> i do not like to talk too much about loved things or matters, or events, or anything
[01:20] <Romanos> because
[01:20] <Romanos> that presume, that there are also non-loved things
[01:20] <dubber> anyways Roman, i will leave u there as i feel i might be disturbing you for sleep. but i really do hope i see u again and regularly.
[01:21] <dubber> wow thats great.
[01:21] <dubber> u have good thoughts.
[01:22] <dubber> if you say we can create our own chat room in mirc and can meet in that reguklarly or whenever u say.
[01:23] <dubber> in slovakia, everybody is attached with a gf or bf, why not u? if thats not too personal?
[01:23] <Romanos> ah, that is fine :) we can be irc friends :) but do not press to much please. if i see you around sometimes i will popup for chat, ok?
[01:23] <Romanos> hihihihihihihi
[01:23] <Romanos> who gave you that idea?
[01:23] <Romanos> :)))))
[01:23] <Romanos> that is not true
[01:23] <dubber> why?
[01:23] <Romanos> why should be?
[01:23] <dubber> its just like that. isn't it?
[01:23] <Romanos> why do you think it is like that?
[01:24] <Romanos> why?
[01:24] <Romanos> aaah, sorry
[01:24] <Romanos> do you mean that, hmm
[01:24] <dubber> u have to find a boy or girl for urself, not ur parents as in our case in india whee parents find them.
[01:24] <dubber> so it shud be natural.
[01:24] <Romanos> exactly
[01:25] <Romanos> so that means, that many people leave it for later age, or are just single
[01:25] <Romanos> because unlucky etc
[01:25] <Romanos> you know :)
[01:25] <Romanos> you are supposed to find your love by your own effort
[01:26] <dubber> yes same my gf says, she is beautiful and everything is alright with her but she is 29 and she says she never had a bf before she met me.
[01:26] <dubber> sometimes i find it difficult to believe.
[01:26] <Romanos> do you have her photo?
[01:26] <Romanos> you said, you are 26
[01:27] <dubber> not in the computer?
[01:27] <dubber> yes i am 26 and she is 29.
[01:27] <Romanos> you are playing with older girl?
[01:27] <Romanos> :)
[01:27] <dubber> playing?
[01:27] <Romanos> well, i think if you build some statistics
[01:28] <Romanos> what you find about relations in ages and mariages
[01:28] <dubber> sometimes i really do feel that because of her age we don't have the same understanding.
[01:28] <Romanos> in partnerships where woman is older that man, they are not likely to reach a marriage even
[01:28] <dubber> maybe she is too mature and somethings are too normal for here which i give too much importance to.
[01:29] <dubber> yes u r right and we have lot of problems in our lifee but just because i am too flexible, the relationship is continuing.
[01:29] <Romanos> just because woman need older man, mature man, to give her enough protection, safety, ...or something like that
[01:30] <Romanos> well, good luck
[01:30] <dubber> thanks for that.
[01:30] <Romanos> but really, you have a very difficult quest in front of you, if you are about to pass it :)
[01:31] <dubber> i know but the most important question is if she has the same level of understanding as me or not.
[01:31] <dubber> if she really is what i think she is or not?
[01:31] <dubber> or maybe it is she who is playing with me?
[01:32] <dubber> so many things.
[01:32] <Romanos> some woman tend to find younger partner, because they feel that they can be more opened, and maybe trivial, naive with them :)))
[01:33] <Romanos> but these partnerships fail quickly
[01:33] <dubber> can u suggest me where they fail?
[01:33] <Romanos> i know ... few girls which have history of this kind :)
[01:34] <dubber> u know what?
[01:34] <Romanos> i have or had friends - girls, which had many younger partners, but never serious
[01:34] <Romanos> they had only few or none older partners
[01:35] <dubber> she tells me that she never had any relationship before but i don't know why something inside me tells me that she is lying.
[01:35] <dubber> its really big for me.
[01:36] <Romanos> if you provide a picture of her, i can say my opinion, of how serious she might be
[01:37] <dubber> i am sorry, i dont have it right now.
[01:37] <Romanos> that is ok, that's fine
[01:38] <dubber> but can u suggest me some other way also of making my mind sure that it is just me she is involved with n nothing else she thinks about?
[01:39] <Romanos> after all, you have to make decision, by you, nobody can do it for you, i think :)
[01:39] <dubber> yes thats right
[01:40] <dubber> but as a boy, if u were in my position, wat wud u do, if u felt that ur gf has a liking to any outsider or strangers.
[01:40] <Romanos> not sure if i understand you
[01:41] <dubber> wud u want to make ur mind sure or just go on loving her with closed eyes and strong mind.
[01:41] <Romanos> i am racional person, i do not like blaming myself, everything or nothing
[01:41] <dubber> wat i intend to say is, that i find that she has a liking for men of her age, if she meets any.
[01:42] <Romanos> well, it is probably not about age
[01:42] <dubber> if anybody says she looks beautiful, she feels too excited and has some feeling for the person who gives the compliment.i know this happens naturally but wat i see is more than wat shud be.
[01:43] <Romanos> but about impression
[01:43] <Romanos> i would suggest
[01:43] <Romanos> that
[01:44] <Romanos> these are things you should discuss with her
[01:44] <Romanos> but
[01:44] <Romanos> i mean
[01:44] <Romanos> you love each other, you live together, you are like two people with same ideas doing things and helping for each other, nobody else
[01:45] <Romanos> if there is somebody else, that the whole point is lost
[01:45] <Romanos> so you should not be talking about these things with me really
[01:45] <dubber> yes, yes, yes
[01:45] <dubber> thanks for stopping me.
[01:45] <Romanos> you are describing person you love as a 3rd person, or 3rd party
[01:45] <Romanos> that is not nice from my point of view
[01:46] <Romanos> you should rather consider her as a part of ... well, not you, but how to say it?
[01:46] <dubber> i don't know why i talked like that with you but i realize my mistake.
[01:47] <Romanos> its is you two together, and nothing else counts so do not look on her as something else.
[01:47] <Romanos> what i can say for sure
[01:47] <dubber> yes thats right.
[01:47] <Romanos> if your love will fail, it will hurt
[01:47] <Romanos> terribly
[01:48] <Romanos> but, what that love would be if it does not
[01:48] <dubber> yes and thats what i don't want.
[01:48] <Romanos> nobody, but if you struggle, you will never get what you really want
[01:48] <Romanos> you cannot look what hurt you, that risk is worth anyway :)
[01:49] <Romanos> the only and real test of your love is how you behave if the love is broken
[01:49] <dubber> risks are there in life, dear and too much care about being soft in life also yields nothing, isn't it?
[01:50] <Romanos> but that is not a point, your aim is to join your two lives together and enjoy it together
[01:50] <dubber> yes thats right but the foundations are the points i really care about.
[01:51] <dubber> because this is where it all starts.
[01:51] <Romanos> do what you are supposed to do, you should go and see your love and speak with her, about everything you feel, and want to be sure about
[01:52] <dubber> when we have finally made up our mind, then it is allright to make adjustments and adaptations but when it is just starting, then it is worthwhile to see if the partner we have is the right selection or not?
[01:52] <dubber> isn't it?
[01:52] <Romanos> you cannot do anything about it by talking with me, can you ? ;)))
[01:53] <dubber> yes thats right, but the thing is i have already talked and cleared all my things in the miond with her and she doesn't seem to be thinking anything.
[01:53] <dubber> anyway i understand your point of view also, but its a good thing u told me.
[01:53] <Romanos> i've never been in love with anybody, I am sorry i can't say anything about it, you overexceed my experience :))))))))
[01:54] <dubber> oh, i also never was and never expected also.but i tell u, it really hurts....better stay away.
[01:54] <dubber> love is too dangerous...
[01:57] <Romanos> if she does not seems to offer any opinion
[01:57] <Romanos> that might also mean, that she really is not very interested
[01:57] <Romanos> or is interested for particular reason
[01:57] <Romanos> you just cannot see it
[01:57] <Romanos> or do not want to see it
[01:57] <Romanos> but i dunno
[01:58] <dubber> anyway roman, i think i am taking too much of your time.
[01:59] <Romanos> :)
[01:59] <dubber> but mind you, you really have a nice mind and good, simple and complex thinking(at the same time)
[01:59] <Romanos> no worries, i do not work tomorrow
[01:59] <Romanos> thank you Manj
[02:00] <dubber> good to share such thoughts with a new person, who i have never met
[02:00] <Romanos> but let me say something terrible :)
[02:00] <Romanos> i would not like to be in your situation :))))
[02:00] <dubber> i hope not nazis again.
[02:00] <Romanos> even it sounds difficult
[02:01] <Romanos> aaand, oh, i am just scared of love :))) do not like lost
[02:02] <dubber> you are a boy and you are just 23, its alright just concentrate on your career and plan your future well, anyways you will be married, no need to fall in love.
[02:03] <Romanos> hihihi
[02:03] <Romanos> oh god, that is terrible attitude
[02:03] <Romanos> i need love
[02:03] <Romanos> :)
[02:03] <dubber> now u need love!!!
[02:04] <Romanos> hey Manj :) everybody needs love everyday :)
[02:05] <dubber> yes its a sweet poison
[02:05] <dubber> but it is really tasty.
[02:05] <Romanos> :)
[02:06] <dubber> once we get used to it, we need to get married, i think.
[02:07] <Romanos> marriage is just a stamp on a paper :)
[02:07] <Romanos> and a lovely ceremony
[02:08] <Romanos> love is love :)
[02:08] <dubber> maybe the gum that fixes the stamp with the paper.
[02:08] <dubber> love is great.
[02:10] <dubber> anyways Dear Roman, i think its time to sleep for you n for me.
[02:10] <dubber> tommorow i am working again.
[02:10] <dubber> lets see if i see you again.