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pocuvajte, raz som cital, ze do Cernobylu robila jedna nemecka agentura vylety pre
majetnejsich fuzatych Hansov, nepoculi ste o podobnej agenture? je mozne sa tam vobec dostat ako turista ? vdaka za info.

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jj, ja som dokonca aj do jednej pisal, ale to Kyjevska, bo na Ukrajinu som chcel ist na vlastne naklady, ta agentura zabezpeci turu z Kyjeva...

Rates in $US per pax (each):
1 - 193$
2 - 105$
3 - 95$
4 - 82$
5 - 73$
6 - 64$
7 & more - 57$

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8:00 Depart Kyiv. Two-hour ride northwards to the border of the "exclusion zone". The area is 214 km in perimeter.

10:00 - 13:00 Pass the checkpoint "Dytyatky" and enter the "exclusion zone". Visit to the site of Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant - an enterprise once employed more than 5000 staff. Observe object "Sarcophagus"- concrete-and-steel shelter covering radioactive masses and debris left after the explosion. Experience the peace and quiet of the ghost-town Prypyat - all 47.500 inhabitants had to abandon their homes the next day after the accident. Explore the deserted apartment blocks, schools, hotels, kinder gardens.

13:00 - 13:30 Lunch (the quality of food is guaranteed).

13:30 - 14:00 A briefing conducted by a specialist of the governmental agency "Chernobylinterinform". Get answers to your questions about the accident, current ecological situation and the future of the exclusion zone.

14:00 - 16:00 Visit to the site of contaminated vehicles. Thousands of tracks, helicopters, armoured personnel vehicles are so soaked with radiation that it is dangerous to approach. Visiting Opachichi and Kupovate villages. Meet the self-settlers, elderly people living in the exclusion zone.

16:00 Leave the exclusion zone

18:00 Arrive Kyiv

Rates include:
Transfer: Kyiv - Exclusion Zone - Kyiv
Transportation inside the Zone
Escort, excursion + English/Russian guide's assistance
Lunch
Zone access permit

Ja som sa o to realne zaujimal aj so spoluziakmi a vyslo nam ze pozicanie auta, benzin, listky a proste vsetko tieto veci vyjdu ked pojde 9 ludi (co je jeden mikrobus) 3000,- na jedneho..

Chce niekto ist? ;)

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wow, zalezalo by asi na termine, $$$ a safety

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one ak to mate overene (s tou agenturou z kyjeva)

tak na jesen viem zorganizovat vylet spijeny aj s filmovackou
(nesli by sme tam len tak, ale spravili by sme o tej ceste aj daky dokument
cize by sa popri tom aj filmovalo a na viacerych autach by sme isli

(len ja mam so mnou styroch ludi co by isli)

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tak to vam zelam prijemnu cestu.

ja mam v plane do Cernobylu vyrazit zarucene, ale az po tom, ako budem mat deti...

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podla mna su to zbytocne obavy.Pochybujem ze keby tam hrozilo take nebespecenstvo ze by dana agentura este stale fungovala(aj ked je to na Ukrajine)...

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1. na ukrajine je mozne vsetko, jedine co ich zaujima su peniaze
1a. ta elektraren fungovala este do roku 2001 takze mozno mas pravdu

2. ja kebyze som zena tak by som to ani nahodou neriskoval. aj ako muz mam dost obavy

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ja by som sa aj dal namotat a poznam dalsich 2 ludi, ktori by mozno sli, otazka je vazne safety ... nemienim pestovat karfiol v hlave ...

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pozri tak ti poviem riziko tam je ... ale snad ta cestovka vie co robi
ty tiez viesh co robish a nebudesh tam riesit veci ako prechadzka po
cernobylskom jadrovom poli ked ti povedia aby si sa drzal asfaltky ...
v ruke dozimeter ... nuz tak riziko bude co najmensie ale nikdy
nemas 100% zaruku ze vysnivany syncek nebude mat 4 hlavy a nebude
chrlit ohen

takze ja by som to planoval niekedy koncom septembra. Zaciatok oktobra
(este kym je teplo) oslovim svojich ludi, ktorych som mal oslovenych
uz davnejsie. ak by isli 2 auta (pripadne vyriesime ten mikrobus to
by uz bolo minimalne 8 ludi coz by sme sa dostali do kategorie
s najvacsou zlavou.

cize potrebujem este styroch ludi co by isli
+ treba tam napisat najskor vyzistit ak mame nejake sporne otazky
a booknut termin
(najlepsie by bolo keby sa slo v piatok, sobota cernobyl nedela navrat
cize ti co robia by si zobrali len jeden den dovolenky)

ja to myslim vazne

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ja sa hlasim ak mate volne fleky

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este len zaciname nad tym rozmyslat

wed keby isli aj tri auta tak este lepsie

"kyberia vs. sweet tomorrows" :-)

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urcite by som isiel este ja s kolegom. a na 100 percent by sa vybavilo este aj nejake auto.

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ako je to s bezpecnostou ? lebo radioaktivita je tam stale vysoka, treba mat specialny odev, dozimetre ... ?

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chodi sa iba po asfaltkach a vodia ta iba po "znamych" trasach kde vacsinu radioaktivity pohltil asfalt. ak vybehnes na travnik dozimeter zacne piskat ako divy :). ono ked si vezmes ze dalsi reaktor fungoval az do roku 2001, takze tam sa dalo normalne zit. aj ked pravda, miestami mas roztrusene "reaktory" (kopy veci) z ktorych ide tolko ziarenia ze az hruza...

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fok, dozimeter urgently needed, bez toho nejdem ani na krok, moze jebat, ked ma rusaci zavolaj , pajdi bezpecno ! :-)

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ja mam dozimeter.

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povedz datum a ideme :)

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Este by sa pridali 2ja ludia. :)

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dajake info su rovno hore v topicu, "Cernobyl tour", ale nestudoval som to ... asi to bude kusok problem