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grub, lilo, mbr... co je lepsie? a preco?
problemy, napady, zazitky...

graficky GRUB
graficke LILO

grub
Smart Boot Manager
TinyCC Boot Loader

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http://xosl.vos.sk/

velmi prijemna instalacia a aj vsetko co tento OS Loader poskytuje.

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kamosov kamos spravil takyto boot loader. riesil to hlavne koli bootovaniu Mac OS X na PC.
http://chameleon.osx86.hu/articles/chameleon-20rc1-is-out

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12:34 < daChaac> Once upon time there was a bad and evil GRUB emulator. It was a scare for Linux shell users. When ever he showed his face they ran away.
One day a stronger and more confident boot floppy came for the rescue, it fighted for long time and finally saved a day for those who has
lost their souls for the evil GRUB emulator.

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18:04 < hollisb> marco_g: got elf64 loading working :)

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Vysiel Super Grub Disk 0.9528.
Pre tych ktori nevedia co to je, tak to je distribucia GRUB Legacy, ktoru udrzuje a o rozne hovadini obohacuje cloviecik asporiujci na maintainera GRUB Legacy. Ide o CD s kadejakymi volovinami, ktore vam pomozu ked daco dojebete.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/

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Vysiel dalsi prerelease GNU GRUB 1.94
z novych veci staci snad spomenut Video subsystem a podporu EFI

Announcement:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-06/msg00004.html

mimochodom ked sme uz pri GRUBe, tak jeden SoC (http://code.google.com/soc/) slot pre projekt GNU bol zadeleny cloveku, co bude robit podporu RAIDov a LVMiek pre GRUB.

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Kto z vas sa uz trosku hral s GRUB 2 modulmi, mozno mu pomoze moje male GNU GRUB 2 Debugging with GDB HOWTO, pripadne diskusia na grub-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2006-05/msg00065.html

enjoy :o)

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pridany patch pre ladenie skrz seriovu linku

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i luv grub! myslim ze je to vlastne jedno, je to len bootloader, ja v tom nist ine nerobim iba bootujem

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grub2 ti aj kavu spravi

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legacy, alebo grub2? :o)

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lilo: setko fici uz cez dva roky bez problemu...
grub: bol, fical, spravil som kernel a napisal kernel-panic lebo nenasiel (hd0,0)

vysledok? lilo rulez... grub je loader ktory si mysli ze je najlepsi a robi len to co mu povies, no lenze jemu netreba hovorit nic pretoze to vie aj bez nas [adminov], takze nic nerobi :) lilo? staci mu napisat co a kde a bezi bez problemov... a 010101010100011010000 som uz mal aj ja, ale predsa lilo je z minuleho tisicrocia... co od neho cakate? ze este aj zahradu poleje? :) :) :)

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wtf?!

... v linuxe mi nejde gta:san andreas, linux je napicu

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nieco mi unika?
vies citat?
po sebe?

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nekomu by to mohlo usetrit praci taxe s vami podelim o zkusenost z restore Linuxu z pasek na zalozni stroj. narazil jsem na to, ze zname doporuceni zalohovat loader pomoci dd a pomoci dd jej i obnovit funguje spolehlive pouze pokud obnovujete na stejne zelezo odkud jste jej vzali. Ackoli produkcni stroj i stroj na nejz jsem delal restore jsou papirove oba Dell PowerEdge ve stejne hw konfiguraci, zrestorovane lilo na druhe masine koncilo hlaskou "LIL-" a RanishPartitionManager z UBCD hlasil "broken IPL".

ackoli oba pod tihou fdisk ukazuji
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4858 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

v tomto udaji uz jsou schopni se lisit:

Disk /dev/sda: 39.9 GB, 39965294592 bytes
Disk /dev/sda: 39.9 GB, 39965229056 bytes

a to je ten problem! vyresil jsem to bootem nachrootovanim z liveCD a prehranim lilo z chrootu:

livecd# mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/x/
livecd# mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/x/usr/
livecd# mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/x/var/
...
livecd# mount -t proc none /mnt/x/proc/
livecd# chroot /mnt/x/ /bin/bash
root@chroot:/# lilo
Added linux *
livecd# exit
livecd# umount /mnt/x/*
livecd# umount /mnt/x/

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ja som jedine za grub

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toto je boot manager pocitaca Amiga 1200 .
nachadza sa na maticnej doske v ROM pamati.
tak ako na PC mame BIOS ,tak na amige je nieco podobne a obsahuje to aj takyto boot manager. ak sa do neho nena hodime a nechame Amigu nabootovat ,tak sa bootuje podla pridelenej priority. ak si nabootujeme AmigaOS ROM system a namountujeme si virtualnu disketovu mechaniku ,tak po restarte pocitaca mozme nabootovat aj z tej virtualnej mechaniky ,v ktorej mozme byt naloudovany nejaky image system. dikz tomuto boot loaderu som amige nikdy nepouzil iny. na PC som bol nakspokojnejsii so System Commanderom. LILO mi spravilo haluze 01010101010101010... len pri jednej distribucii a Grub mi este problems nikdy neurobil. pouzil som ho ale len raz.
ps: nejak uz asi boot loader na PC nebudem moc pouzivat ,lebo pomaly prechadzam na LinuxPC only . a na Amige mi super sluzi zakladny boot manager z prvej polovice 90ych rokov a som snim spokojny.

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nie je tu ziadny flame-thread lilo vs. grub?? ;-) mam chut si zapicovat na lilo a trochu pomastit grub ;-)

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gruuuuuuuuuuuuuuubbbb!!!!!!

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a ako je to s tym grub vs. lilo ?
LILO JE BEST :)

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win95 bootrecord je lepsi zavadzac ako lilo

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s lilom je to na picu ;-) dnes som s nim mal akurat dost pantu. situacia: padnuty server - pomrdany lilo, ani za ten svet nesiel fixnut, writnut ani rit, vraj permission denied... ;/ ale grub-install nasral grub do mbr len taky fuckot... ;-)

grub rulz ;)

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ale lilo mi vobec nerobi problemy . odkedy som si nainstaloval linux mi bootovani slape ako hodinky. co si robil ,ze sa ti tak znechutilo ? ako je mozne ,ze ti to lilo nevyhovelo ? sak by s tym nemal byt problem.
ale cez to vsetko ti problemy spravil a grub sa bezproblemovo votrel do mbr ,lebo mal v prdeli nejake lilo pravidla (pravdepodobne ochranne). takze si vydobil postavenie ,ze je lepsi ? mozno bol ,ale pre teba vtedy a tam :P

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jebla elektrika, upsko nebolo napojene na servor (seriakom) tak ho neshutlo... po pokuse o nastartovanie 999999999999999999999999999 ;-)

v chroote pod knoppixom som sa snazil pustit lilo.

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ja som s knoppixom uz par krat lilo riesil na crashnutych masinach. zatial vzdy uspesne klop klop klop

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neprijemne

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pri pridavani noveho kernelu si este nezazil? :) tak to potom ty updatujes
kernel asi raz za 5 rokov. + fallback hroza

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toto som raz zazil s tymi 0mi a 1mi ,ked som instaloval SuSE.

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nazdar moem mat taqu dost to Q
kamos ma win98 a xp da sa nejaq rozumne spravit ten windacki boot loader alebo si musim dat nejaqu cistu konxolu a do toho hodit nejaqe lilo alebo grub ?

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ano da, staci zeditovat boot.ini
pripadne cez msconfig.exe

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lilo a grub a vsetko ostatne ti spravi len chainload dalsieho mrkevneho bootloaderu

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mal by ti stacit aj ten XP bootloader

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