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...the second result of feeling that we are separate minds in an alien, and mostly stupid, universe is that we have no common sense, no way of making sense of the world upon which we are agreed in common. It’s just my opinion against yours, and therefore the most aggressive and violent (an thus insensitive) propagandist make the decisions. A muddle of conflicting opinions united by force of propaganda is the worst possible source of control for a powerful technology….

---alan watts: the book--




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techko
 techko      12.08.2004 - 12:06:06 , level: 1, UP   NEW
a decission nerobia len ti most aggressive and violent, ale hlavne ti co maju dost filipa aby prexcali ostatnych

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techko
 techko      12.08.2004 - 12:03:50 , level: 1, UP   NEW
a ako inac by si to xcel robit?-toto je svet v ktorom zijes - toto sme my ludia a takto funguje nasa spolocnost a este dlho bude...

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ritomak
 ritomak      12.08.2004 - 09:44:59 , level: 1, UP   NEW
ja som na kyberii spoznal ludi, s ktoyrmi si v mnohych ohladoch rozumiem a nielen to - vdaka tomu sme mohli spojit nasu energiu a aj prilozit ruky k realnej spolocnej praci.

no a inak - vsetky pokusy zjednotit ludi na zaklade nejakej spolocnej idei ci spolocnom chapani reality dopadli katastroficky (komunizmus, fasizmus atd.). diverzita udrzuje svet v delikatnej rovnovahe.

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paradigm shift
 paradigm shift      12.08.2004 - 09:51:17 , level: 2, UP   NEW
this is not the point.

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ritomak
 ritomak      12.08.2004 - 10:35:17 , level: 3, UP   NEW
may be you try explain by words what can not be explained by words. so, kyberia is not right place for your point.....

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paradigm shift
 paradigm shift      12.08.2004 - 10:59:34 , level: 4, UP   NEW
probably.
i wish we couldn't speak.
would we have mouth?

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      12.08.2004 - 09:04:06 , level: 1, UP   NEW
we have no common sense, no way of making sense of the world upon which we are agreed in common
Praveze mame, do znacnej miery. Keby sme si neboli taki podobni tak by neboli ani tie 'fierce and pointless discussions' :)

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paradigm shift
 paradigm shift      12.08.2004 - 09:40:22 , level: 2, UP   NEW
nie preto ze sme si podobni vznikaju fierce and pointless discussions, it is because of the lack of common sense.
ja to chapem ako kolektivne vedomie-poprepajane ludske mozgy do jednej ohromnej metasiete. keby sme mali to tak sa nebavime o porusenych vlastnickych pravach polnohospodara v cechach, nebavili by sme sa o kapitalizme, socializme, klerofasistoch atd, pretoze by sme VEDELI ze tieto pojmy v skutocnosti nepredstavuju nic. Pred tisic romki tu neboli a pochybuje ze za 500 rokov tu budu. zmiznu. its pointless. namiesto toho by sme sa bavili o ......

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Thunder Perfect Mind
 Thunder Perfect Mind      12.08.2004 - 09:59:18 , level: 3, UP   NEW
Pred 1000 rokmi tu boli a su tu spolu s clovekom uz pekne dlhu dobu a tvoria sucast spolocnej kultury. Pretoze ano clovek volakedy musel prezit a starat sa o seba a nie len sediet a pisat. Pretoze ten kto mal ten zil. Tieto pojmy predstavuju nieco - predstavuju zivot - alebo predstavovali a preto sa tak strasne bojime vzdat sa ich, ak aj uz povodny vyznam stratili (???). A ano - mas pravdu - tieto pojmy su prikladom toho, ze autonomne spolupracujuce bioroboty maju do urcitej miery spolocne vedomie, nech uz komunikacia nastava akokolvek.

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paradigm shift
 paradigm shift      12.08.2004 - 10:27:27 , level: 4, UP   NEW
and this is not the point either.

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paradigm shift
 paradigm shift      12.08.2004 - 09:29:39 , level: 2, UP   NEW
praveze nemame.